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Old 10-19-2005, 10:35 PM
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Default 66, UTG+1, lvl4, $22

Sorry for the n00b question but is this a fold or a push?

#Game No : 2902271991
***** Hand History for Game 2902271991 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $20 Buy-in + $2 Entry Fee Trny:16720459 Level:4 Blinds(50/100) - Wednesday, October 19, 21:49:48 EDT 2005
Table Table 67914 (Real Money)
Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 8
Seat 3: who_cares193 ( $1350 )
Seat 4: mjenx1 ( $1215 )
Seat 5: castanza_g ( $725 )
Seat 6: capmorg16 ( $715 )
Seat 7: IMAnonymous ( $1220 )
Seat 8: mike_mac ( $1165 )
Seat 9: FU______ ( $173 )
Seat 2: hanylv ( $1437 )
Trny:16720459 Level:4
Blinds(50/100)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to castanza_g [ 6s 6d ]
mjenx1 calls [100].
castanza_g folds.
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Old 10-19-2005, 10:39 PM
john smith john smith is offline
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Default Re: 66, UTG+1, lvl4, $22

Easy fold. You're not too desperately shortstacked, UTG likes his hand, 7 people to act behind you, no reason to coinflip here, you can wait for a much better spot.
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Old 10-19-2005, 11:10 PM
tshak tshak is offline
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Default Re: 66, UTG+1, lvl4, $22

Well first off I'd stop playing tournaments with such aggressive blinds structures. Second, we are borderline desperate here. This entire table is shorstacked. That's why aggressive blind structures suck. It turns into a crapshoot because you pretty much have to push with hands like 66 early on. I'd like a better hand than 66, but you may want to push now while you have fold equity. In a couple of orbits you won't have enough chips and you'll get called down whether or not the cards come your way or not. I push here to double up and have a commanding position in this tourney, or lose so that I can go play some real tournaments.
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Old 10-19-2005, 11:27 PM
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Default Re: 66, UTG+1, lvl4, $22

Thanks John, now please reply to my other thread. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...14&fpart=1
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Old 10-20-2005, 12:10 AM
SippinSoma SippinSoma is offline
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Default Re: 66, UTG+1, lvl4, $22

You should stop giving advice.
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Old 10-20-2005, 09:52 PM
tshak tshak is offline
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Default Re: 66, UTG+1, lvl4, $22

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You should stop giving advice.

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I would be willing to agree if you presented me with compelling evidence as to why I should stop. Instead you resort to fairly childesh behavior which I would contend is not beneficial for anyone and arguably not welcome here. You may want to consider that it is you, sir, who should not be posting here.

To the rest of the group, please feel free to critique my original thoughts on this hand. I'm more than willing to admit that I'm incorrect here.
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Old 10-20-2005, 10:25 PM
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Default Re: 66, UTG+1, lvl4, $22

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Well first off I'd stop playing tournaments with such aggressive blinds structures...That's why aggressive blind structures suck.

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You made these comments cuz you knew it would piss people off, now your trying to start a flame war.

Don't post in my thread about how much you hate party, do it in the zoo. And if you don't like what the other dude said, then PM him.
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Old 10-21-2005, 12:49 AM
tshak tshak is offline
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Default Re: 66, UTG+1, lvl4, $22

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You made these comments cuz you knew it would piss people off, now your trying to start a flame war.


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In all honesty that was not my intent at all, although I see how it could be taken that way, so I appologize for my harsh wording (it's a passionate subject for me). My point was mainly that these tournaments really are crapshoots from a mathematical perspective and I was pointing out how you're forced to gamble with marginal hands which practically eliminates any skill edge.

As far as SippinSoma's unfortunate comment, he did make it publically and I feel that I should be able to defend myself publically. There is no question that he should have PM'd me in the first place, or better yet not said anything at all. That being said, I would remove my comment and PM him per your request but it is past the allowed time to do that.
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