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Old 10-09-2005, 10:16 PM
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Default Is $850 downswing at Party 10+1\'s \"normal variance\"?

Just wondering. My friend recently lost this much, and he had been an apparent winning player before. This downswing lasted several months also (playing a few SNG's/day). It also includes some two-table tournaments from what I understand.
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Old 10-09-2005, 10:18 PM
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No, your "friend" might suck.
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Old 10-09-2005, 10:18 PM
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lol
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Old 10-09-2005, 10:20 PM
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I asked my doctor. He diagnosed your friend with a terminal case of 'suck'.

I get upset at a $200 downswing in the $22s. When you lose that much at the $11s you just aren't very good.
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Old 10-09-2005, 10:21 PM
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i am putting this in my favorites folder. hillarious
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Old 10-09-2005, 10:22 PM
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no... but a 850 buy-in down swing is
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Old 10-09-2005, 10:26 PM
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really?
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Old 10-09-2005, 10:28 PM
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I get upset at a 2 buyin upswing. Only firsts make me not unhappy.
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Old 10-09-2005, 10:29 PM
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Default Re: Is $850 downswing at Party 10+1\'s \"normal variance\"?

two common errors to watchout for:

spewing chips early game: you should be folding AJ in EP, KJ in MP etc.

not pushing in late game: you should be pushing most hands in LP.
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Old 10-09-2005, 10:39 PM
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Default Re: Is $850 downswing at Party 10+1\'s \"normal variance\"?

Thanks for such kind responses. Anyway, I posted this because I really thought it was more than variance, but I don't know the numbers for SNG's, and he wouldn't believe me if I told him it was more than bad luck anyway. I wanted to hear it from the people who know what they are talking about. I'm sorry for my ignorance but you guys didn't have to be such jackasses in your responses.

So then, what would be considered the maximum downswing for a winning player at these limits? I'd imagine 30 buy-ins tops (probably more like 15-20)? My own opinion of what happened in order to lose 80 buy-ins (some cash and 20 SNG's also, maybe $100 worth at max), was a bad run of maybe 10 buy-ins, followed by tilt and excessively tight play. His playstyle is on the tighter side anyway, and he never mixes it up. I also believe he is a winning player at these limits, and does profit in them, mainly by waiting out the fish and playing big hands fast all the while getting called down by a donk.

He has made a couple thousand from online poker (made back everything from his downswing and then some). Of course, this is over many many thousands of hands/SNG's, so it leads me to believe that he is a marginally winning player, who was tilting for most of his downswing.
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