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Old 10-06-2005, 05:10 PM
Hoopster81 Hoopster81 is offline
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50NL Full Ring

Hero ~$140
CO ~ $14 (loose and bad)
Button ~$50 (9.3/0/2.5 over 80 hands)

Hero is MP3 with QQ, raises to $3 after a couple limpers, CO and Button call, limpers fold.

Flop: 10 5 5 r/b

Hero bets $8, CO pushes for ~$4 more, Button calls, Hero calls

Turn: 6

Hero checks, Button bets $12, Hero calls

River: 2

Hero checks, Button all-in for $14, Hero calls


Who has a good exit strategy for this hand?
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Old 10-06-2005, 05:16 PM
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Default Re: No escape

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50NL Full Ring

Hero ~$140
CO ~ $14 (loose and bad)
Button ~$50 (9.3/0/2.5 over 80 hands)

Hero is MP3 with QQ, raises to $3 after a couple limpers, CO and Button call, limpers fold.

Flop: 10 5 5 r/b

Hero bets $8, CO pushes for ~$4 more, Button calls, Hero calls

Turn: 6

Hero checks, Button bets $12, Hero calls

River: 2

Hero checks, Button all-in for $14, Hero calls


Who has a good exit strategy for this hand?

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Honestly, it looks fine to me. <font color="white">Which, of course, means Amoeba will come and explain how your line was sub-optimal and I'll immediately see where I was wrong. </font> Learning is fun.
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Old 10-06-2005, 05:18 PM
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Default Re: No escape

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Button ~$50 (9.3/0/2.5 over 80 hands)


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That there's one a them set farmers. He's got a pair, JJ is it? Or was it 99?
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Old 10-06-2005, 05:21 PM
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Default Re: No escape

Button is a pretty tight player who never raises the flop. On the other hand he's fairly aggressive post-flop if he catches something. Based on the 9% VPIP I'm going to guess that button does NOT have a 5 (although 55 is a possibility). He *may* have TT, but most likely he's got a T with some other suited broadway card.

Even if we give villain the broadest possible hand range, you're ahead of an aweful lot of that. Unfortunately you didn't do anything to define your hand, or his.

CO's raise is pretty meaningless. He's probably just off-stacking his last $4, and would do this with any T or any PP..or even just a 3 flush heh.

As you played it, I don't think there's any way out. Personally, I would have re-raised the flop or, more likely, lead the turn. If button plays back at you, you can comfortably fold, if not, you win some extra chips.
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Old 10-06-2005, 05:22 PM
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Default Re: No escape

I'll give you a hint - I lost
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Old 10-06-2005, 05:22 PM
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Default Re: No escape

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50NL Full Ring

Hero ~$140
CO ~ $14 (loose and bad)
Button ~$50 (9.3/0/2.5 over 80 hands)

Hero is MP3 with QQ, raises to $3 after a couple limpers, CO and Button call, limpers fold.

Flop: 10 5 5 r/b

Hero bets $8, CO pushes for ~$4 more, Button calls, Hero calls

Turn: 6

Hero checks, Button bets $12, Hero calls

River: 2

Hero checks, Button all-in for $14, Hero calls


Who has a good exit strategy for this hand?

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Honestly, it looks fine to me. <font color="white">Which, of course, means Amoeba will come and explain how your line was sub-optimal and I'll immediately see where I was wrong. </font> Learning is fun.

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Lol. I'm not the last word on everything and I try to reread everything I post to make sure I don't give bad advice. I'm learning just like you guys are.


actually I think this is fine.

its a tough spot to be in but if you decided your hand is good then its the best line to take.

push on flop doesn't reopen bettin so nothing you could do there.

I suppose you can check fold the turn but you need really good read to do that I think.

and you can't bet any amount that really allows you to comfortably fold to a raise.

everything looks good. you are going to get overpair stacked sometimes.
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Old 10-06-2005, 05:24 PM
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Default Re: No escape

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Unfortunately you didn't do anything to define your hand, or his.

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When is a good time to do this? Once CO pushes and Button calls, the pot is already huge. If I bet the turn and he pushes, I am going to be getting like 7:1 on a call.
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Old 10-06-2005, 05:24 PM
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push on flop doesn't reopen bettin so nothing you could do there.

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Opps...missed that lol.
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Old 10-06-2005, 05:31 PM
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I'll give you a hint - I lost

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Give more than a hint, so we can try to understand the hand from Villains' perspectives.
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Old 10-06-2005, 05:33 PM
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Default Re: No escape

unfortunately this is fullring.

if it was 6 max, you could adjust by raising a wide variety of hands when villain is in BB. and it sounds like you are the button to his BB and making a bit off continuation bets and stolen blinds.

in full ring, having the button openraise just doesn't happen often enough so unfortunately you still have to ABC it out.
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