Would you call this turn bet?

DMACM · #1 10-05-2005, 01:11 AM

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (8 handed) converter

SB (t1280)
Hero (t820)
UTG (t635)
UTG+1 (t310)
MP1 (t1630)
MP2 (t1235)
CO (t1065)
Button (t1025)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls t50, 2 folds, MP2 calls t50, CO calls t50, Button calls t50, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (t300) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG checks, MP2 checks, CO checks, Button checks.

Turn: (t300) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 players)
SB bets t50, Hero calls t50, UTG raises to t200, MP2 calls t200, CO folds, Button calls t200, SB folds, Hero ????

#2 10-05-2005, 01:24 AM

maybe it's just me but given all the limpers here, i think you're probably getting outdrawn. villians could easily have KJx or even KQx at which point you're drawing dead. in addition, the blinds are still low enough for you to turn this once loose and pick a better spot to push.

bjb23 · #3 10-05-2005, 01:28 AM

im getting out, asap. most of your "outs" are probably counterfeited at this point given the action. what would you do if the q of clubs came on the river... another bad spot. i fold.

bigt439 · #4 10-05-2005, 01:34 AM

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im getting out, asap. most of your "outs" are probably counterfeited at this point given the action. what would you do if the q of clubs came on the river... another bad spot. i fold.

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Even if you only count 6 outs you're getting implied odds to call. 150 more to win 1000, hell you're almost gettings odds, let alone implied odds.

bjb23 · #5 10-05-2005, 01:43 AM

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im getting out, asap. most of your "outs" are probably counterfeited at this point given the action. what would you do if the q of clubs came on the river... another bad spot. i fold.

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Even if you only count 6 outs you're getting implied odds to call. 150 more to win 1000, hell you're almost gettings odds, let alone implied odds.

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are you saying that you call here? i only see 3 clean outs to the nuts and if a club completes my straight it would be very difficult not to pay him off.

bigt439 · #6 10-05-2005, 01:46 AM

Well if you think calling when the club makes your straight is a loser, then don't put any more money in. If you make the turn decision ignoring clubs then this can't be used as an argument. And who in this hand has KJ? Unless its of clubs and then, well, whatever, god hates you.

bjb23 · #7 10-05-2005, 01:56 AM

are you being the devil's advocate here or are you definitely calling?

i guess its a style preference but id fold to the initial 50 chip bet on this draw due to the likelihood of it being raised behind. then again, i suck at poker.

bigt439 · #8 10-05-2005, 02:06 AM

I guess I haven't really decided, but either way it's constructive, not just being a dank or something. I think I actually do call in both spots, because the chance of it getting raised behind is probably pretty small given the flop action.

NiR · #9 10-05-2005, 03:11 AM

why r u calling the min bet on turn anyway? fold there. in your situation i still instafold.