$215: Bubble hand

[Apathy]

Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 2: blaydzfsteel ( $1240 )
Seat 7: albundy888 ( $1055 )
Seat 8: fuosb ( $5755 )
Seat 9: Senior_Smoke ( $1950 )
Trny:16334872 Level:7
Blinds(150/300)
** Dealing down cards **

Dealt to blaydzfsteel [ 5h 5d ]

albundy888 is all-In [1055]
fuosb calls [1055].
Senior_Smoke folds.
blaydzfsteel ???

Note that if I call the push I will have 190 chips left, meaning I cover the short stack.

READS: The shorty could have almost anything here maybe top 60% of hands.

Him and the big stack have had an insane bubble dynamic where they keep playing big pots with very marginal hands so the bigstacks range is quite big here as well.

[bluefeet]

FWIW...I call. If you don't and UTG holds, your chance of pushing anything better, or even HU for that matter, are slim. I'd lend a hand here to big stack, for my own good [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

[ace_in_the_hole]

Yeah i think u call, when you win you get a nice pot.

[caretaker1]

I have to believe this a fold here. I know hero's stack will only be 3XBB after the fold, but why would you want to get involved with a low pair when the pusher is 50/50 to get knocked out here (or better if the big stack has any respect for the gap). If one of them has an overpair your walloped.

$.02

[johnnybeef]

Come on dude, this is day one stuff. Any time two people are all in on the bubble and you are an observer, your equity sky rockets. Easy fold.

[Shillx]

I would fold. If everyone has the same chance of winning, you lose about 0.8% by calling here.

If you win 35% of the time here (and the others win 32.5% each), it is a 0.3% mistake. This is about what you can expect going up against people who will play 60% of their hands. Obviously what tilts this more toward a fold is that the big stack will probably have better cards on average.

So if the big stack will win 40% of the time and both you and the smaller stack will win 30% (but it will be 60/40 HU in favor of the big stack if you fold), it is a 1.8% mistake to call here.

Brad

[inyaface]

I think it's a fold...but more importantly what should a calling range be here?

[caretaker1]

A similar question arose in a recent thread and consensus seemed to be KK or AA only.

[Shillx]

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I think it's a fold...but more importantly what should a calling range be here?

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Probably 88+/ATo+/A9s+/KQs depending on what we think the ranges are (maybe some more hands as well). For a 45% push and 30% call this seems about right (~ nil to + 0.6% EV call for the lower end)

Brad

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A similar question arose in a recent thread and consensus seemed to be KK or AA only.

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So you're saying QQ is a fold here?!