22 level 3, 55 hand

Rickyroodido · #1 10-03-2005, 10:14 AM

Villian is active. Likes to CR flopps.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (6 handed) converter

CO (t1110)
Hero (t1380)
SB (t2300)
BB (t1595)
UTG (t1115)
MP (t500)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls t50, 2 folds, Hero raises to t250, 2 folds, UTG calls t200.

Flop: (t575) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks.

Turn: (t575) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks.

River: (t575) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG bets t250, Hero raises to t1130 (All-In), UTG calls t615 (All-In).

Final Pot: t2570

splashpot · #2 10-03-2005, 10:19 AM

I'd limp preflop. Given that you raised, I make a continuation bet of about 200-250. And fold to any resistance at all.

Rickyroodido · #3 10-03-2005, 10:33 AM

On the flopp I didnt want to be bet out since I had som outs to a set and straight. And villian was very likely to CR. By the check he might give me a good price on the turn, if he has a hand aswell. I think I should have made a delayed cont. on the turn though.

Sabrazack · #4 10-03-2005, 10:35 AM

I fold this preflop without second thought. Not worth paying 50 for set value and hoping no one raises. I think raising is the worst of your options here. I really don't like it.

#5 10-03-2005, 10:35 AM

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I'd limp preflop. Given that you raised, I make a continuation bet of about 200-250. And fold to any resistance at all.

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playtitleist · #6 10-03-2005, 10:36 AM

I think you need a probe bet on the flop. 55 is not an incredibly strong hand, especially when getting your t250 called. I think you are doomed to lose more than you should if you don't find out the strength of your hand at the flop.

Your pre-flop raise told villain you liked your hand, so checking the flop could easily be you trying to slow play a made hand. The check behind meant either villain didn't fall for your supposed slow play, or he has a hand himself and is now playing you.

The check on the turn was right move either way. Had you probed and got called, you are behind AA+. Sinc you didn't probe, the K is now a scare card too. You check the turn cuz you can be sure you are behind any hand that could reasonably call the pf raise.

All in on the river was right move either way, cuz villain shouldn't have 22 and if you lose to trip-A or trip-K so be it.

In short, probe bet on the flop. Play the rest as you did.

edit - FWIW I fold pre-flop. Not interested in limping/raising and folding to a bet on pretty much any flop that doesn't have a 5. I'm gonna get myself in a lot of trouble calling a bet on a 346 flop.

durron597 · #7 10-03-2005, 10:47 AM

This is a very clear limp preflop given your stack size and UTG's stack size.

I am betting this flop because if it's checked to me most of the time my villians do not have an ace and will fold. Plus I have outs if I don't. Since we didn't do either of these things, when UTG bets the river he's either trying to pick up the uncontested pot with air or he has a 2 or AAA. Thus he will not call a raise unless he beats us, so call.

Sabrazack · #8 10-03-2005, 10:52 AM

Ah yes, a limper infront. I like limping alot more then.

Rickyroodido · #9 10-03-2005, 11:00 AM

Ok, I understand that it was a bad raise pf. I usually fold/limp small pp. However I liked my position and im trying to improve my postflop game, tnx guys for showing me that this just was plain bad.
And the river push turned out as you thought, with a little twist: villian had 67s. Which also means that I failed to protect my hand [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
naah this is the last time im doing this with fives.

playtitleist · #10 10-03-2005, 11:06 AM

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Thus he will not call a raise unless he beats us, so call.

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As a relative newb, this is a point I miss time and again. It's a very easy concept to understand, because we'd do the same thing, but I so often push over the top when I could just call. Stop the bleeding!