$55: Mystified. Do donks still do this in the 55's?

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NL Texas Hold'em $50 Buy-in + $5
Level:2 Blinds(15/30)
Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 7
Seat 1: urgggh ( $840 )
Seat 2: virgin99 ( $2165 )
Seat 3: mikepal1970 ( $2140 )
Seat 4: Hero ( $885 )
Seat 5: BigFold111 ( $1025 )
Seat 6: centgas20 ( $905 )
Seat 10: oasisofaces ( $2040 )
Level:2
Blinds(15/30)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ Kc Ad ]
oasisofaces folds.
urgggh folds.
virgin99 folds.
mikepal1970 folds.
Hero raises [90].
BigFold111 is all-In [1010]
centgas20 folds.

Hero??

Folded around to me on the button, standard raise, SB goes all-in on level 2?!
First thought: total donk.
Second thought: He assumes I'm stealing, how bad is his range of hands to do this with?
Third thought: Uh-oh, could this possibly be a Lorinda overbet with Aces or Kings?

Thoughts on the villain's hand and my move?

[unfrgvn]

He's got a little pair, 2's thru 7's or so. Caveat, I've only played 1 55 in my life, just guessing. I would fold, wait and see if you can catch him when you have an overpair.

[axeshigh]

I'd need JJ to call here. I'd put him on 55-TT, AK-AJ, KQ. And yes, this is fairly frequent at the 55s, though not as much as at the lower limits.

[chisness]

AK is most likely imo

it makes sense because he doesn't want to put in a big rr then miss -- btw if he does have AK, i don't think this is that bad and with 700 or less i think it's best

I fold this every time at level 2 with only 90 in the pot.

AK is too much of a drawing hand for my liking. This definitely smells like a mid pair to me. The steal with suited gaps doesn't make sense at level 2, AND, it could always be worse - the dreaded overbet with AA or KK.

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Auto call.

[bjb23]

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Auto call.

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really this is an autocall for you? what range do you put this guy on? do they really do this at the 55's with aq/aj/kq?? i guess there is also a 135 chip overlay so a low,mid pp is not necessarily the worst thing in the world. just curious what you would expect the villian to turn over here. i would have to expect ak/88-jj.

[MegaBet]

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Auto call.

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really this is an autocall for you? what range do you put this guy on? do they really do this at the 55's with aq/aj/kq?? i guess there is also a 135 chip overlay so a low,mid pp is not necessarily the worst thing in the world. just curious what you would expect the villian to turn over here. i would have to expect ak/88-jj.

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With the money already in the pot, it's mathematically correct to call if you put villain on 22-QQ or AK. To be honest, I have seen people make this play qith AQ, AJ and KQs. If they are sneaky enough to push here with kings or aces (highly unlikely), then I'd have to accept I was outplayed here.

[wiggs73]

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With the money already in the pot, it's mathematically correct to call if you put villain on 22-QQ or AK.

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this cash game mentality? In a tournament, where you have a very slight mathematical gain by calling what is likely a coinflip, but are out of the tournament if you lose, you should be much less inclined to call... at least when blinds are this low and your stack after folding will be this large in relation to them.

[MegaBet]

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With the money already in the pot, it's mathematically correct to call if you put villain on 22-QQ or AK.

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this cash game mentality? In a tournament, where you have a very slight mathematical gain by calling what is likely a coinflip, but are out of the tournament if you lose, you should be much less inclined to call... at least when blinds are this low and your stack after folding will be this large in relation to them.

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't pot odds play a HUGE part in SNGs. [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

Unless I have a solid read that my opponent has AA or KK (from past games), I'm calling. Risk-taking is what SNGs are all about.