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Old 09-23-2005, 03:07 PM
Mercman572 Mercman572 is offline
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Default losing 1/2 a buy-in with 72

Villain is 26/9/2 after 40 hands
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (10 handed) converter

Hero ($165.03)
UTG ($93.55)
UTG+1 ($72)
UTG+2 ($236.05)
MP1 ($91.80)
MP2 ($67)
MP3 ($100.85)
CO ($100)
Button ($105.35)
SB ($136.90)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.50.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls $1, UTG+2 calls $1, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, SB (poster) completes, Hero checks.

Flop: ($4) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $4</font>, UTG+1 calls $4, UTG+2 calls $4, SB folds.

Turn: ($16) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $10</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to $20</font>, UTG+2 folds, Hero calls $10.

River: ($56) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $20</font>, UTG+1 calls $47 (All-In), Hero folds.

Final Pot: $123

comments on all streets appreciated. River was a blocking bet I planned on folding to a raise, standard?
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Old 09-23-2005, 03:10 PM
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Default Re: losing 1/2 a buy-in with 72

Terrible. Push or fold on the turn.
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Old 09-23-2005, 03:12 PM
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Default Re: losing 1/2 a buy-in with 72

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Terrible. Push or fold on the turn.

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care to elaborate?
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Old 09-23-2005, 03:14 PM
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Default Re: losing 1/2 a buy-in with 72

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Terrible. Push or fold on the turn.

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care to elaborate? I don't have a good read at this point, I think he probably either just hit a lone queen with KQ or hit top two.
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Old 09-23-2005, 03:19 PM
Godfather80 Godfather80 is offline
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Default Re: losing 1/2 a buy-in with 72

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Villain is 26/9/2 after 40 hands
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (10 handed) converter

Hero ($165.03)
UTG ($93.55)
UTG+1 ($72)
UTG+2 ($236.05)
MP1 ($91.80)
MP2 ($67)
MP3 ($100.85)
CO ($100)
Button ($105.35)
SB ($136.90)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.50.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls $1, UTG+2 calls $1, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, SB (poster) completes, Hero checks.

Flop: ($4) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $4</font>, UTG+1 calls $4, UTG+2 calls $4, SB folds.

Turn: ($16) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $10</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to $20</font>, UTG+2 folds, Hero calls $10.

River: ($56) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $20</font>, UTG+1 calls $47 (All-In), Hero folds.

Final Pot: $123

comments on all streets appreciated. River was a blocking bet I planned on folding to a raise, standard?

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This is a flop I'm check-raising to take it right then and there. If somebody plays back at me, I'm done with the hand. If somebody calls, I'm slowing way down. If it checks through, so be it.

The reason for my flop play is: the last thing that I want to do is build this pot.
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Old 09-23-2005, 03:27 PM
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Default Re: losing 1/2 a buy-in with 72

Fold to the turn raise
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Old 09-23-2005, 03:47 PM
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Default Re: losing 1/2 a buy-in with 72

stack sizes are awkward for river blocking bet.

I would just fold to the turn minraise.
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Old 09-23-2005, 03:52 PM
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Default Re: losing 1/2 a buy-in with 72

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stack sizes are awkward for river blocking bet.

I would just fold to the turn minraise.

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Amoeba,
What do you think of a flop checkraise?
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Old 09-23-2005, 03:52 PM
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im agree (fold or push).

by calling you will be all-in in the later street anyway !

personnaly i fold this one on the turn reraise!
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Old 09-23-2005, 05:12 PM
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Default Re: losing 1/2 a buy-in with 72

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stack sizes are awkward for river blocking bet.

I would just fold to the turn minraise.

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Amoeba,
What do you think of a flop checkraise?

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it lets you know more clearly where you stand but risks getting it checked through. but given that a hand like 22, 77 is more unlikely due to your own holdings and JJ being unlikely because no preflop raise and J7 a rather strange holding for most players, I am not sure you need to know more clearly where you stand. if it was JT2 and you held T2 the brunson, it might make more sense to check raise as JT is a more believable holding.

personally I think villain hit his top 2 on the turn so in this instance it might not help that much.
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