215: Value Betting w/ 99?

[Degen]

Read is that he has been in far too many pots up until now and is quite loose pre-flop and after the flop.


Comments/flame on all streets welcome.



***** Hand History for Game 2749293081 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $200 Buy-in + $15 Entry Fee Trny:15932042 Level:2 Blinds(15/30) - Wednesday, September 21, 05:47:39 EDT 2005
Table Table 10899 (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 7
Seat 1: ay_yo_yayo ( $970 )
Seat 2: IdaHadDatPot ( $890 )
Seat 3: W_Santos ( $2485 )
Seat 5: drumm58 ( $930 )
Seat 8: scorpiosag ( $1385 )
Seat 9: XXsooted ( $930 )
Seat 4: TheLage ( $2410 )
Trny:15932042 Level:2
Blinds(15/30)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to TheLage [ 9d 9h ]
TheLage calls [30].
drumm58 folds.
scorpiosag raises [125].
XXsooted folds.
ay_yo_yayo folds.
IdaHadDatPot folds.
W_Santos folds.
TheLage calls [95].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 8s, Qh, 3h ]
TheLage checks.
scorpiosag bets [175].
TheLage calls [175].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 7s ]
TheLage bets [200].
scorpiosag calls [200].
** Dealing River ** [ 4s ]
TheLage bets [175].

[bones]

What hands pay you off on the river? A8? 66? Is he loose enough to call here with an unimproved ace?

[Degen]

i wasn't trying to get the bet called so much as i knew that if i checked he'd bet regardless of what he held, so on the turn and river i put those blocking value bets out there to get out of this hand as cheap as possible

this would obviously not work against a skilled opponent, but that is not what i was facing here

[bennies]

Why didn't you checkraise the flop (I would have) - was it in order to keep the pot small?
If so, this gives a free card to your opponent. What do you do if an overcard comes on the turn? Check-call again?


In the actual hand, having check-called the flop, I like your block betting.

[bigt439]

Since he's betting anything on the river, I'd let him hang himself and re-evaluate (and probably call) after he bet. He's not going crazy with a naked Q, and anything better probably raises you on the river anyways. I think the river pretty much ensures he bluffs any two given your read, so why not take advantage of this? I don't like betting here, especially since if he pushes you'll have to fold getting really good odds (unless you can make this call given the read... but then you should still check).

[Degen]

ya plan was a check raise on the flop, but i thought he'd fold to this agression action for some reason...and i was fairly certain i was ahead

if more paint came off i'd have been far more likely to check/fold