KJ Flops Top Pair And I Get Confuzed.

CIncyHR · #1 09-18-2005, 06:45 PM

A few questions about this one. One - is it an easy fold preflop? Probably right? Im new to full table and Im just trying to feel out which starting hands work. In my normal 6max, easy PFR.

Next, flop check/call turn donkbet any good? This is the part Im most confident with. I dont think betting the flop does me any good.

What the hell am I doing on the river? bet fold? check call? luckily everyone checks behind.

newbie gets confused:

Party Poker 0.50/1.00 Hold'em (10 handed) link

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls, Hero calls, 1 folds, MP1 calls, 3 folds, Button raises, SB calls, 1 folds, UTG calls, Hero calls, MP1 calls.

Flop: (11.00 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks, MP1 checks, Button bets, SB calls, UTG folds, Hero calls, MP1 calls.

Turn: (7.50 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, MP1 calls, Button calls, SB calls.

River: (11.50 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, MP1 checks, Button checks.

Final Pot: 11.50 BB.

Fryguy · #2 09-18-2005, 07:01 PM

It's wrong 99.9% of the time to fold to a single raise preflop.

Lead the flop. You are hoping the button will raise and knock out most of the field. The hand plays very differently from this point and reads become a bit more important. Playing it this way, I'd consider check-raising the turn, as the button will almost surely lead again and that 7 is a dead card (although it does make backdoor flush a possibility).

NateDog · #3 09-18-2005, 07:14 PM

I fold this pre-flop.

CIncyHR · #4 09-18-2005, 07:14 PM

Perfect. Thats what I needed.

SoftcoreRevolt · #5 09-18-2005, 07:15 PM

I play preflop the same, and lead the flop.

NateDog · #6 09-18-2005, 07:16 PM

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Do you have a starting hand chart for full ring yet?

lufbradolly · #7 09-18-2005, 07:20 PM

Preflops fine.

Raise the flop or check raise. Think i'd raise it because there's no guarantee that the preflop raiser will raise and it getting checked through would be a mini disaster. Also if you raise the flop and its get raised then i'd be 3 betting.

Turn's fine.

Why did you check the river? Bet that river all day everyday.

NateDog · #8 09-18-2005, 07:27 PM

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For someone who can get away from an easily dominated hand postflop, but for a player new to full ring, I disagree.

CIncyHR · #9 09-18-2005, 07:31 PM

I do and it advocates limping in EP with KJ. It seemed so.... wrong to me. Do you have a chart you reccomend?

Rev. Good Will · #10 09-18-2005, 07:37 PM

there is a link in the FAQ for a great SSHE based PF chart.