10/20 Pocket Eights Turn. Ugh.

bobbyi · #1 09-17-2005, 09:59 PM

Does anyone check this turn? Fold to the raise? Fold the river? I hate giving a free card if I'm ahead here, but I also hate getting check-raised. If I get check-raised, I hate calling down because I could be drawing dead. I also hate folding. Ugh.

Party Poker 10/20 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, MP calls, 1 fold, Hero calls, SB (31/20/1.6/35) completes, BB checks.

Flop: (5 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG bets, MP folds, Hero raises, SB calls, BB folds, UTG calls.

Turn: (5.50 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets, SB raises, UTG folds, Hero calls.

River: (9.50 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 11.50 BB

ArturiusX · #2 09-17-2005, 10:01 PM

Bet the turn every time.

I fold to the raise. Look at sb, he's cold called all hand, and now suddenly loves it once the draws come through. I just give it up.

krishanleong · #3 09-17-2005, 10:03 PM

I'm not feeling well today.

Krishan

Lmn55d · #4 09-17-2005, 10:03 PM

I really think you should be raising Preflop here, especially with a tight player in the sb who you can usually knock out.

The turn is a tought spot I guess. If your opponent is solid you can lay it down. Without a read I might call down if I think the opponent is capable of checkraising a big diamond or lower pair. You do have 2 outs against a flush, straight or trips, and some straight outs against trips. Once you get to the river you have to call imo.

Oh, and you have to bet the turn without a diamond.

ArturiusX · #5 09-17-2005, 10:04 PM

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he has a gutshot.

Krishan

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And this changes what?

Lmn55d · #6 09-17-2005, 10:05 PM

i'd value his 2 8 outs a lot higher than gutshot outs.

krishanleong · #7 09-17-2005, 10:06 PM

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he has a gutshot.

Krishan

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And this changes what?

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pot is 8.5 BB. You like folding 6 outs there?

Krishan

ArturiusX · #8 09-17-2005, 10:11 PM

Is that a joke?

kidcolin · #9 09-17-2005, 10:13 PM

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he has a gutshot.

Krishan

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And this changes what?

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pot is 8.5 BB. You like folding 6 outs there?

Krishan

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Given the chance you're up against a flush, or that the 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] or 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] might give him the flush, or that you might split if a 7 comes off, I'd say it's more like 2 or 3 outs. I fold.

bobbyi · #10 09-17-2005, 10:16 PM

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pot is 8.5 BB. You like folding 6 outs there?

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Ok. So then I should have folded the river once I missed those outs?