You ain't got crap!!

[ilya]

Villain's flop bet seemed really weak to me. Should I just push the flop if I'm gonna check-raise?

***** Hand History for Game 2719876878 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $20 Buy-in + $2 Entry Fee Trny:15779960 Level:3 Blinds(25/50) - Friday, September 16, 02:23:54 EDT 2005
Table Table 13785 (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 7
Seat 1: aaemdkl1 ( $600 )
Seat 2: fastat3m ( $440 )
Seat 5: dubbeemin ( $845 )
Seat 6: cfowlkes ( $610 )
Seat 8: FunnelVision ( $2035 )
Seat 9: StneColdCall ( $885 )
Seat 10: pjdodd311 ( $2585 )
Trny:15779960 Level:3
Blinds(25/50)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to StneColdCall [ 4h 9s ]
pjdodd311 folds.
aaemdkl1 folds.
fastat3m folds.
dubbeemin folds.
cfowlkes calls [50].
FunnelVision calls [25].
StneColdCall checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 9c, 6s, 2s ]
FunnelVision checks.
StneColdCall checks.
cfowlkes bets [50].
FunnelVision folds.
StneColdCall raises [250].
cfowlkes calls [200].
** Dealing Turn ** [ Kh ]
StneColdCall bets [325].

[Freudian]

I don't know if I would continue betting after getting a call on the big flop raise. That is a pretty strong play from him. I think you are behind very often here.

Of course since you got a free look from BB he can't eliminate any hand and if he has TT-JJ your turn bet might scare him enough.

I don't think a flop push accomplishes anything your raise didn't.

[johnnybeef]

why build a pot when you are out of position and are uncertain of where you stand? if you are going to do something like this, i prefer to call the flop and bet the turn.

[unreal_nh]

how about betting out on the flop?

[ilya]

[ QUOTE ]
why build a pot when you are out of position and are uncertain of where you stand? if you are going to do something like this, i prefer to call the flop and bet the turn.

[/ QUOTE ]

i don't feel uncertain about where i stand. i think i'm ahead here the large majority of the time after the limper makes that super weak bet and the SB folds.

[curtains]

It looks fine to me, you have to raise after that weak bet. He only has a few chips left on the turn, you simply have to put them in against these idiots, you never know what they are doing.