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Old 09-13-2005, 09:09 PM
rallbritain rallbritain is offline
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Default Is this cheating? UB Ultraturbo sng

I have been toying with these the past few days, the blinds increase every 2.5 minutes. I have found that by stalling in certain spots or playing fast in certain spots you can control where the blinds break. I have not done this to the point where anyone has said something to me yet. I could see how if everyone started doing this it could play one hand per level.

Any thoughts on this?
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Old 09-13-2005, 09:14 PM
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Default Re: Is this cheating? UB Ultraturbo sng

You must have played a bunch of those speed multis on PP.
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Old 09-13-2005, 09:19 PM
rallbritain rallbritain is offline
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Default Re: Is this cheating? UB Ultraturbo sng

This is a little more severe than the timed multis, you can burn a whole level by just checking in the big blind, checking after the flop and folding if you take you time making the desisions.
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Old 09-13-2005, 09:22 PM
rallbritain rallbritain is offline
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Default Re: Is this cheating? UB Ultraturbo sng

Anyone consider this strategic play with in the rules?

or does anyone consider it backhanded?
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Old 09-14-2005, 02:20 AM
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Default Re: Is this cheating? UB Ultraturbo sng

is it +EV?
is it not allowed?

nuff said,


but then etiquette breaks in with one more (annoying) question:

would you consider it cheating if someone else did it?
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Old 09-14-2005, 02:23 AM
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Default Re: Is this cheating? UB Ultraturbo sng

The trouble I have with it is as follows:

In the $1/$5 range, your opponents are playing for fun. Using this tactic (other than maybe 10 seconds here and there) would possibly put them off poker for life.

At $10 and above, your opponents are going to have an idea what you are doing and start doing it themselves. This will negate a large chunk of your edge and also make the game really tedious.

I don't disagree in theory, in practise, I suspect it isn't worth it.

Edit: Having re-read your original post, I see you're only doing it a bit. I think this is fine given that you'd be stupid not to.

Lori
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Old 09-14-2005, 02:36 AM
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I think it's UB's fault for clearly allowing strategies that don't involve betting, raising, folding, calling, and checking, and some chatting (I guess). Good work exploiting the game, but I wish it weren't doable.
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Old 09-14-2005, 04:32 AM
Sykes Sykes is offline
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Default Re: Is this cheating? UB Ultraturbo sng

you're a giant dick and you're also retarded.

I play these also, and I hate when people do this to me because I know that when the blinds stay at a lower level, I can outplay the opposition.

So, you're very bad at the game and trying to exploit every advantage of the game to try to beat it.

It's really not hard to crack these at 50% ITM with 100%+ ROI.
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Old 09-14-2005, 12:17 PM
Slim Pickens Slim Pickens is offline
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Default Re: Is this cheating? UB Ultraturbo sng

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I play these [turbo sng's] also

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I know that when the blinds stay at a lower level, I can outplay the opposition.

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Nice game selection.

To the OP: I would imagine this would decrease your hourly rate even if it did increase your ROI just because those things are so darn short anyway and the edge you gain from the tactic is fairly small.
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Old 09-14-2005, 12:22 PM
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To the OP: I would imagine this would decrease your hourly rate even if it did increase your ROI just because those things are so darn short anyway and the edge you gain from the tactic is fairly small.

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I don't know if you're right about this. I think it's a big edge and the time it adds is very low.
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