Good time for PVS?

[Hendricks433]

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (7 handed) converter

Button (t1255)
SB (t2060)
Hero (t940)
UTG (t1405)
MP1 (t2290)
MP2 (t3115)
CO (t2435)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls t100, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, SB completes, Hero Pushes? or Should I wait for a better spot?

[golfcchs]

I think this is good as long as the two opponents are reasonable tight. If you have seen either one cold call some raises dont make this play because donks like to call short stacks all in with big stacks.

[pergesu]

I hate pushing out of the BB because it always looks like a very obvious steal. Here I think it would probably have a high success rate (only need to worry about MP1 calling, really). Still, while the chips would help, you don't really need the pot. I take the free flop and pwn everyone there.

[curtains]

I never do this. Im sure its not terrible or anything though.

[golfcchs]

Do you never use PVS? Or just not with this weak of a hand?

[KramerTM]

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Do you never use PVS? Or just not with this weak of a hand?

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Not sure what PVS stands for exactly, but I'm pretty sure you should be more likely to push with weaker hands. That is to say, if you have a hand (i.e. 67s, JTs, etc.) that plays better by seeing a flop, I'd rather check. If you have a garbage hands that is more or less hopeless anyway, then I might push here (only if MP1 has shown a willingess to limp/fold before.

[curtains]

Youve got this concept mixed up a bit Kramer. Most of the time you want to have a better hand when you push. The times you sometimes want to have a weaker hand are those times when your bet isnt allin.

For instance if you raise 20% of your stack from the BB as a bluff, you dont want to do it as often with a hand that has postflop value, so its not painful when your opponent moves in. However when your bet is allin, you generally want to have a good hand, because if called, you are going to be seeing all 5 cards, and would like to have the best chance possible of making something.

[golfcchs]

Curtains do you not use PVS? Or is it just this situation that makes it wrong? If so could you explain why? I'm trying to start using this move a little, but I think I often use it in the wrong situation.

[curtains]

I don't usually use it with garbage hands, no.