Stars turbo, Lvl 3 KQ UTG.

[Iamafish]

I could have raised, called or folded here so lets not talk about the PF.

PokerStars Game #2544776141: Tournament #12397513, Hold'em No Limit - Level III (25/50) - 2005/09/10 - 17:28:19 (ET)
Table '12397513 1' Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: Dick N (1980 in chips)
Seat 2: patchs2 (1815 in chips)
Seat 3: fishpole (1380 in chips)
Seat 4: boroguy (2135 in chips)
Seat 5: Floss (1740 in chips)
Seat 6: HERO (1610 in chips)
Seat 7: melico (1465 in chips)
Seat 8: UncEvy424 (570 in chips)
Seat 9: Taurus 2 (805 in chips)
boroguy: posts small blind 25
Floss: posts big blind 50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to HERO [K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]]
HERO: calls 50
3 Folds
Dick N: calls 50
patchs2: calls 50
fishpole: folds
boroguy: calls 25
Floss: checks
*** FLOP *** [Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]]
boroguy: checks
Floss: checks
HERO: bets 170
Dick N: calls 170
patchs2: calls 170
boroguy: folds
Floss: folds
*** TURN *** [Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]] [5 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]]
boroguy is sitting out
HERO: bets 400
Dick N: raises 1360 to 1760 and is all-in
patchs2: folds
HERO: ?

[tigerite]

I think you should fold KQo UTG on a full table preflop, at these blinds with your stack.

[tigerite]

But ok let's assume somehow that I got to this flop, now I'm OOP into a field of limpers with TPTK (ok, barring AQ, but we'll assume that's not in this hand, it would surely raise pf) into a heavily connected board. I would check here because the flush/straight/etc draw will bet out, as would anyone with a lesser Q to protect their hand. I'd then call and re-assess the turn, with the turn that came, I would now choose to bet out.

So, with your line, I really don't know, you could be massively behind, or ahead to a draw, or massively ahead to some other Q, but you've no way of telling.

[lastchance]

Being OOP sucks. This is why. This is why you fold preflop. Don't be OOP. Play position and use it.

So, I think checking the flop is perfectly reasonable, and may well be better than leading, though leading isn't bad.

On the turn, I check and shut down. Two people called me, there's reverse implied odds everywhere, and it's pretty clear that they have me beat a signifigant portion of the time.

[45suited]

Easy fold on the turn.

Unless you're playing Durron, who would likely push here with 9dJd. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]