I need a plan -- Postflop play early at a $109

Bonafone · #1 09-09-2005, 01:07 AM

Comments leading up to the turn are appreciated too. I really had no idea what to do with the hand from here, any ideas??

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (10 handed) converter

MP1 (t925)
MP2 (t595)
MP3 (t1000)
CO (t1145)
Button (t1245)
SB (t880)
BB (t955)
UTG (t1270)
UTG+1 (t940)
Hero (t1045)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
2 folds, Hero raises to t60, 1 fold, MP2 calls t60, 2 folds, Button calls t60, 1 fold, BB calls t45.

Flop: (t247.50) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
BB bets t50, Hero raises to t225, MP2 folds, Button calls t225, BB folds.

Turn: (t747.50) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

unreal_nh · #2 09-09-2005, 01:51 AM

fold pf

Degen · #3 09-09-2005, 01:55 AM

how much you think u can get him to call?

i'd go 3/4 pot probably, maybe a bit less

you aren't suggesting you may be beat here? i'd expect to see a weak ace or smaller two pair a larger % of the time, with smaller two pair being the lesser because he'd likely re-raise the flop if he bet out like that...

i'd certainly be willing to go broke here in this spot

durron597 · #4 09-09-2005, 01:58 AM

IMO the stacks are not deep enough to get away from this hand if you are beat, so I would concentrate on getting maximum value from worse hands by check raising the turn and leading the river if he checks behind.

MSUcougar · #5 09-09-2005, 02:03 AM

I probably go for a check raise on the turn... if he checks behind I'll value bet the river.

If he has a set of T's or the straight or whatever you just gotta pay him off in my opinion.

jeffraider · #6 09-09-2005, 02:16 AM

Fire about 450 on the turn and get the rest in on the river. People will call more on the turn and then be committed on the river than they will let you check-raise them and then call the check-raise. The check-raise looks a ton stronger and won't win as many chips.

Newt_Buggs · #7 09-09-2005, 02:27 AM

I limp preflop, but calling/raising/folding are all more a matter of style.

On the turn I would bet out about half of my stack and call a push or push the river if I'm just called. I'm losing my whole stack if he has me beat, so this line will probably maximize the amount that I make when I'm ahead.

Chaostracize · #8 09-09-2005, 02:40 AM

Limp preflop. Half pot turn, call a push. Push any river if called again.

#9 09-09-2005, 02:42 AM

I don't like a c/r on the turn because the board is so draw heavy and you don't want to risk a free card. (In a cash game, I don't mind this play to disguise your hand. In an SnG, taking this pot now's fine.)

Since the pot is now almost the size of your stack, you're not folding this hand, so I think a smart bet on the turn is one that would give a hand like KQ odds if you had A9, but doesn't give them odds against your real hand (I'm not assuming your opponent has KQ, just remarking that hands like this (and possibly weak aces, although probably not) are the only hands that are likely to be ambivalent on the turn. Since you and your opponent both know you're committed to this pot after any bet on the turn, the pot effectively has your additional 760 in it, making it ~1500. KQ has nine outs to improve and 37 cards that don't help it. Based on this, I suggest a bet of about 300. I think it goes without saying that you push any river.

Oluwafemi · #10 09-09-2005, 08:04 AM

c/r the turn [all-in] if villian bets or if he checks to you bet t560.