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Old 09-08-2005, 10:26 PM
newhizzle newhizzle is offline
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Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tournament ($50 buy-in), blinds (t10/t15) <font color="#0000FF">(8 handed)</font> link

UTG ($940.00)
Hero ($1000.00)
MP2 ($940.00)
MP3 ($1000.00)
CO ($990.00)
Button ($925.00)
SB ($2290.00)
BB ($1915.00)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $60.00</font>, <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, MP3 calls $60.00, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>.

Flop: ($120.00) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $150.00</font>, MP3 calls $150.00.

Turn: ($420.00) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero pushes?
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Old 09-09-2005, 12:02 AM
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Default Re: AK

uhh...bump
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Old 09-09-2005, 12:08 AM
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Default Re: AK

You need to do a better job of controlling the size of the pot.

On the flop, instead of betting 150 (more than the size of the pot), but something like t80. If you are called, the pot is 280 rather than 420, a huge difference.

On the turn, with the smaller pot, fire again for something like t150. With this line, if you are raised on the flop or the turn, you can get away from the hand with minimal loss. With your line, you are staking your entire stack on A-high, and allowing some guy to make a "great call" with his 77.

So yeah. Just bet smaller, give yourself more room to maneuver.
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Old 09-09-2005, 12:15 AM
newhizzle newhizzle is offline
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Default Re: AK

i like your points but just to clarify, the converter put the pot size wrong, on the flop it was 145, so bet like 100?
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Old 09-09-2005, 12:19 AM
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Default Re: AK

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i like your points but just to clarify, the converter put the pot size wrong, on the flop it was 145, so bet like 100?

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actually i still like 80. but 100 seems fine. anything in that area.
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Old 09-09-2005, 01:02 AM
45suited 45suited is offline
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Wow, I absolutely can not imagine pushing the turn here. What could he possibly have been calling you with on the flop that will not likely call again on the turn?

There was no draw on the flop. The turn was an undercard that filled up no draws.

Here's how I play the hand, but I don't get married to AK early on. I think your flop bet was way too big. It just screams, "please fold, I have nothing." Would you really bet that large, heads-up, with a high PP? The pot is 145 on the flop. Bet ~100 on the flop, fold to a raise. Once that flop bet is called (on a drawless board), I'm actually shutting down on the turn. I check the turn, fold if villain bets. Tip my cap to him and move on with minimal damage and plenty of chips. Why be so desperate to win this pot? Your opponent called your PF raise, called a large flop bet on a drawless board. He almost assuredly has you beat. All you have two big cards. Move on.
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Old 09-09-2005, 01:10 AM
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on a drawless board, I'm actually shutting down on the turn.

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this is a good point. i'm a big fan of firing a second barrel when a rag turns (which, this wasn't totally a rag, but it wasn't a Q either), but in this case, his flop call looks very likely to be a ten or some PP, something like 77+.

On the other hand, I know there are plenty of donks who love to peel with AQ or KQ here as well. Perhaps its read-dependent.
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