River Value Bet Opinions

QTip · #1 09-08-2005, 10:09 AM

UTG is laggy

BB is loose passive to the tune of 50/0/.40

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Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls, 2 folds, Hero raises, 3 folds, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (6.50 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, UTG bets, Hero raises, BB calls, UTG calls.

Turn: (6.25 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets, BB calls, UTG folds.

River: (8.25 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks,

Do you think I have a value bet here?

toss · #2 09-08-2005, 10:12 AM

I'd do it. I can see an 8, ace high, or small pair being BB's most likely holdings.

Nick Royale · #3 09-08-2005, 10:13 AM

No, at best you're minimizing your loss by betting. I would probably bet/fold.

EDIT: ok, so now I realise we're last to act. I would check.

jskills · #4 09-08-2005, 10:18 AM

I assume UTG checked the river too?

I'd probably just check behind, in case someone's got a 10.

toss · #5 09-08-2005, 10:19 AM

Its HU on the river.

peterchi · #6 09-08-2005, 10:20 AM

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No, at best you're minimizing your loss by betting. I would probably bet/fold.

EDIT: my first edit was just confusing, so I stick to my original post [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

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heh I'm still confused. If it's not a value-bet, why not just check behind?

QTip · #7 09-08-2005, 10:21 AM

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No, at best you're minimizing your loss by betting. I would probably bet/fold.

EDIT: ok, so now I realise we're last to act. I would check.

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You lost me Nick.

Nick Royale · #8 09-08-2005, 10:21 AM

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heh I'm still confused. If it's not a value-bet, why not just check behind?

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Didn't realise we were last to act. Since I guess UTG has checked, I would check behind. If there wouyld have been a player yet to act I think bet/folding is the best option by far...

EDIT 7: Ok, so UTG folds the turn, I check the river... [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

Nick Royale · #9 09-08-2005, 10:23 AM

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You lost me Nick.

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Jeez, I need to go to sleep...

QTip · #10 09-08-2005, 10:24 AM

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heh I'm still confused. If it's not a value-bet, why not just check behind?

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Didn't realise we were last to act. Since I guess UTG has checked, I would check behind. If there wouyld have been a player yet to act I think bet/folding is the best option by far...

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That would certainly change the action; however, I'm not in agreement with your statement here. But, I'm listening if you want to explain.