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Old 09-08-2005, 09:14 AM
Fatdogs12 Fatdogs12 is offline
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Default 22 with 5.8 bb\'s left do you push?

Forget the fact I would have hit quads. What do you do with 2 limpers?

***** Hand History for Game 2675579662 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:15553010 Level:4 Blinds(50/100) - Thursday, September 08, 09:12:43 EDT 2005
Table Table 39771 (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 7
Seat 8: EgoBond ( $2365 )
Seat 4: eatraw12 ( $585 )
Seat 5: noom72 ( $490 )
Seat 10: deims ( $880 )
Seat 6: Prosvet ( $780 )
Seat 9: rocky5013 ( $615 )
Seat 3: Deivis_LT ( $2285 )
Trny:15553010 Level:4
Blinds(50/100)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to eatraw12 [ 2h 2d ]
EgoBond folds.
rocky5013 calls [100].
deims calls [100].
Deivis_LT folds.
eatraw12 folds.
noom72 folds.
Prosvet checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 5h, 6c, Qc ]
Prosvet checks.
rocky5013 checks.
deims checks.
** Dealing Turn ** [ 2s ]
Prosvet checks.
rocky5013 checks.
deims checks.
** Dealing River ** [ 2c ]
Prosvet checks.
rocky5013 checks.
deims checks.
Prosvet shows [ Jd, 8c ] a pair of twos.
rocky5013 shows [ Js, Ad ] a pair of twos.
deims doesn't show [ Jh, Kd ] a pair of twos.
rocky5013 wins 350 chips from the main pot with a pair of twos with ace kicker.
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Old 09-08-2005, 09:22 AM
kevstreet kevstreet is offline
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Default Re: 22 with 5.8 bb\'s left do you push?

I fold this, I really can't stand 2s and I'm not sure you have much fold equity. Try and pick up the blinds on the next couple of hands.

* Of course if you are going to play this hand, it's definitely a push over a call.
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Old 09-08-2005, 09:28 AM
chisness chisness is offline
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Default Re: 22 with 5.8 bb\'s left do you push?

def fold
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Old 09-08-2005, 09:42 AM
Nicholasp27 Nicholasp27 is offline
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Default Re: 22 with 5.8 bb\'s left do you push?

fold

22 is not a good hand...it's a small dog to 78o, big dog to higher pp, and only a slight fave to any 2 higher cards...unless they are suited, in which case it's a slight dog again...(dead even against any 2 higher offsuit cards with one gap [79o])

22 just isn't a good hand, ESPECIALLY multi-way


u still have 6bbs...wait until you are first in the pot so you have more FE and hopefully the blinds will have raised by then as well to give you more chips for the steal
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Old 09-08-2005, 10:47 AM
EnderFFX EnderFFX is offline
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Default Re: 22 with 5.8 bb\'s left do you push?

I'm pushing this almost everytime. 580 chips, 350 dead in the pot. No one is showing strength, I say push this. If you get called odds are you ahead. If the table has been weak tight I'm pushing this with any 2. This is a great position to get back into competition. PUUSSHH.
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Old 09-08-2005, 11:05 AM
raptor517 raptor517 is offline
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Default Re: 22 with 5.8 bb\'s left do you push?

maybe if u have like 150-200 more chips its a push, so you have that extra fold equity. otherwise i prolly fold. i shove with.. lets say 775-1k here, maybe a few more. holla
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Old 09-08-2005, 12:42 PM
Maulik Maulik is offline
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Default Re: 22 with 5.8 bb\'s left do you push?

i always fold w/ 22, its too easily dominated. 22 is 72o as far as I'm concerned unless I'm playing for set value or in the sb/btn.
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Old 09-08-2005, 02:19 PM
raptor517 raptor517 is offline
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Default Re: 22 with 5.8 bb\'s left do you push?

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i always fold w/ 22, its too easily dominated. 22 is 72o as far as I'm concerned unless I'm playing for set value or in the sb/btn.

[/ QUOTE ]

u dont shove utg when you have 4-5x the bb? i think you make a huge mistake treating 22 as 72o. holla
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Old 09-08-2005, 02:28 PM
runner4life7 runner4life7 is offline
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Default Re: 22 with 5.8 bb\'s left do you push?

I really dont know what to say to this other than you must be kidding. You would rather have like 8-4 than 22? 22 is ahead of lots of hands that 8-4 obviously is not.

And to the OP, dont show that you would have hit 4 of a kind next time because if you were like "damn I would have 4 of a kind" then you need to stop being results orientated now.
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Old 09-08-2005, 02:41 PM
Fatdogs12 Fatdogs12 is offline
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Default Re: 22 with 5.8 bb\'s left do you push?

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And to the OP, dont show that you would have hit 4 of a kind next time because if you were like "damn I would have 4 of a kind" then you need to stop being results orientated now.

[/ QUOTE ]

That was never the point, read the first line of the the thread. The fact that I hit quads is irrelevant, I just wanted to know about fold.
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