how badly did I play this 1/2 NL live cash game hand ? thanks guys!

#1 09-06-2005, 03:07 PM

Hello again!,

Got another hand I was curious about, not sure If I played this one correctly or not.

Okay this is how it went down.

1/2 No Limit live cash game, I had been playing at this table for a good hour, hadnt done much been playing like a rock mostly, but was about about 40-50 for a total stack of about 230.

Then this hand came up, I believe I was early position with K / K Spade/Club, so I raised to 12, two positions to my left someone re-raised to 30.

Everyone folds around to me and I ask for time, I am pretty sure that he probaly has AA here, so I decide its worth it to call a flop and see what develops.

So I call the 30 dollar re-raise, there is now about 63 in the pot, the flop comes 10 7 4 Club all clubs. So im sitting there with the KK one with clubs and im thinking perhaps I should put it in now, but instead i check.

The other player goes all in, and again I ask for time.

What would you do ?

capone0 · #2 09-06-2005, 03:12 PM

Put the chips in the middle. How tight is this person? Is he capable of only reraising with AA, could he also have KK and you be on a freeroll. He could also have QQ, or something similar. The only hands your worried about are sets which seem inconceivable on that board and Ac, if he has AcAx so be it, but I wouldn't mind getting my money in the center here. If you fold, it's not a bad fold b/c your not getting that great of return on your money. Personally I would have put it all in PF, but that's just me.

Live NL games, players are capable of reraising with alot worse than AA, I've seen a guy at a 1/2 NL game made it around 30 to go with pocket 33s on a limp reraise.

#3 09-06-2005, 03:58 PM

Hey..ya this hand was a major dissapointment to me.

I ended up making the call, I put him on QQ ..I just have a hard time believing people actualy have the AA when im in a situation like that.

He ended up having AA, but no club ace, so there was still hope however, no club on turn or river so he takes down my entire stack. This was reallly dissapointing to me as I have stated above because last week I went to the casino and lost my entire stack in a very simmiliar way with KK vs AA.

So thats two times in the last 2 weeks that KK has cost me both my buy ins.

jba · #4 09-06-2005, 04:30 PM

did he have you covered?

#5 09-06-2005, 04:38 PM

yeah he had me covered by about 75 or something

mmmmmbrother · #6 09-06-2005, 04:39 PM

you raise was much too big before the flop.
you cant put him on aces that easily.
easy call.

capone0 · #7 09-06-2005, 04:41 PM

Let's just say your going to lose alot of money with KK vs AA, unless your lucky enough to get an ace to pop on the flop. Most times you won't be beat, here you were what close to even money on the flop, you didn't suck out but things happen. I wouldn't worry about it, most people can't make this fold especially at 1/2 NL. There are too many times at low limits when players overplay their hands, QQ, JJ, AK were also possiblities. KK especially with the clubs on the board is definitely hard to fold in that spot.

capone0 · #8 09-06-2005, 04:42 PM

have you played much live NL cash games? I play in Tunica (uncapped buyins) and the normal open is between 12 and 18 while online it would be 6-10. Occasionally you'll get the guy opening for 6, but most times it's for 17.

Live games are always that way atleast everyone I've been to in Vegas and Tunica.

capone0 · #9 09-06-2005, 04:44 PM

At that game is the only possible re-raise AA? If it is then you can fold but most times from most people it's not. I might reraise that with KK or QQ even AK if it's the right person (hardly true). I wouldn't worry about this situation, it happens, you have to deal with it, and you can't do much about it especially at low limit games.

jman220 · #10 09-06-2005, 05:15 PM

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Hello again!,

Got another hand I was curious about, not sure If I played this one correctly or not.

Okay this is how it went down.

1/2 No Limit live cash game, I had been playing at this table for a good hour, hadnt done much been playing like a rock mostly, but was about about 40-50 for a total stack of about 230.

Then this hand came up, I believe I was early position with K / K Spade/Club, so I raised to 12, two positions to my left someone re-raised to 30.

Everyone folds around to me and I ask for time, I am pretty sure that he probaly has AA here, so I decide its worth it to call a flop and see what develops.

So I call the 30 dollar re-raise, there is now about 63 in the pot, the flop comes 10 7 4 Club all clubs. So im sitting there with the KK one with clubs and im thinking perhaps I should put it in now, but instead i check.

The other player goes all in, and again I ask for time.

What would you do ?

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1/2 live in a casino? Call, and its not even close. And I have no problem with the way you played it. I like pushing preflop, but calling, and then pushing if no ace comes off on a non-threatening board is not bad either. You're not folding KK preflop at a 1/2 live game, you're just not, it would be silly.