Fold to Turn Raise?

jpstewar · #1 09-04-2005, 02:28 AM

Could I have gotten out on the turn?

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Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
Hero calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, 6 folds, BB checks.

Flop: (4.40 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 raises, BB calls, Hero 3-bets, UTG+2 calls, BB calls.

Turn: (6.70 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, UTG+2 raises, BB calls, Hero calls.

River: (12.70 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, Hero checks, UTG+2 bets, BB folds, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 14.70 BB.

#2 09-04-2005, 02:34 AM

I don't see how you can fold this. If he has a better kicker than you, you would probably know from PF. He could be holding AQc, but more likely IMHO has a king and paired his pathetic kicker or has a set. Without a read on the player I'd say make him show you.

(This is my first post ever. It's kind of exciting. And I know that's lame, but I had to say it.)

#3 09-04-2005, 02:56 AM

What were your reads on villian?

jpstewar · #4 09-04-2005, 03:13 AM

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32/0/1

brazilio · #5 09-04-2005, 03:21 AM

Folding this sucks. I think about it sometimes, but usually just notate it if they play their sets like this.

Akimka · #6 09-04-2005, 07:27 AM

Is there anyone who raise it PF?

brazilio · #7 09-04-2005, 08:10 AM

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every time.

toss · #8 09-04-2005, 08:12 AM

Raise this PF usually. I'm only folding the turn with a read. A set or raggedy two pair is your only worry.

pokerjunky · #9 09-04-2005, 10:57 AM

I think you've got to call the turn just in case you suck out on his ragged two pair on the river. Once you don't improve on the river though it's read dependent on whether or not you call. Against a truly passive player you should probably fold but against an aggressive player I would call and expect to see the best hand at least a small portion of the time.

shark6 · #10 09-04-2005, 11:32 AM

Raise PF. With him going nuts on a raged board he probably has a hand that didn't have odds to call a PF raise, so make him pay PF when you're ahead with a raise there.

Otherwise, without a read you have to call down. He could have a wide range of hands.