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Old 09-03-2005, 12:07 PM
cjs cjs is offline
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Default bubble play with equal stack

party 30/3 NL 1 table

Is it correct bubble play to steal from an equal big stack with an A?

NL Texas Hold'em $30 Buy-in + $3 Entry Fee Trny:15411203 Level:5 Blinds(75/150) - Saturday, September 03, 12:44:06 EDT 2005
Table Table 11183 (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 6: ( $1010 )
Seat 7: ( $1455 )
Seat 8: ( $2750 )
Seat 4: hero ( $2785 )
Trny:15411203 Level:5
Blinds(75/150)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to hero [ 7s Ac ]
hero is all-In.

#8 has been agressive and seems decent.
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Old 09-03-2005, 12:16 PM
Nicholasp27 Nicholasp27 is offline
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Default Re: bubble play with equal stack

no

it's -ev

u are risking losing the tourney for too small of a % of ur chips...u have more than 10bbs, so u should be thinking raise/fold, not push/fold
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Old 09-03-2005, 12:26 PM
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Default Re: bubble play with equal stack

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no

it's -ev

u are risking losing the tourney for too small of a % of ur chips...u have more than 10bbs, so u should be thinking raise/fold, not push/fold

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Old 09-03-2005, 12:46 PM
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Default Re: bubble play with equal stack

just fold. or if you're hell-bent on playing, raise to T400.

pushing with this stack is just crazy.
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Old 09-03-2005, 01:23 PM
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Default Re: bubble play with equal stack

i dont have a problem raising, depending on how action has gone in recent hands, but i don't push here as others have said...
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Old 09-03-2005, 01:49 PM
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Default Re: bubble play with equal stack

So say Hero's stack was swapped with seat 7's stack so that hero had $1455, would that then be +ev to push, due to having less than 10bbs?
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Old 09-03-2005, 03:35 PM
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Default Re: bubble play with equal stack

So if I want to play raise 3-4 bb and fold if the other big stack comes over the top?

As long as I am over the 10bb mark a push is a poor play no matter what the other stacks are? Or is it just that the other big stack can break me that I don't want to push?

The other big stack called the all-in with kings and I didn't spike an ace and was out 2 hands later. After thinking about it I thought I made a mistake and wanted to check here.

thanks,cjs
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Old 09-03-2005, 04:23 PM
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Default Re: bubble play with equal stack

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As long as I am over the 10bb mark a push is a poor play no matter what the other stacks are? Or is it just that the other big stack can break me that I don't want to push?

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The idea is that you push when you risk fewer than 10 BB. This means that either you have fewer than 10 BB, or your opponent has fewer. If you both have more than 10 BB (as is the case here), then you're risking more than you should be.
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Old 09-03-2005, 05:50 PM
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Default Re: bubble play with equal stack

Your position is great if you consider your position according to chip stacks. Equal stack to your right and small stacks to your left. Each time the equal stack folds you are in great position to steal from smaller stacks.
I wouldn't risk my all my chips against the equal stack here even if I had JJ let alone a medium ace.
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