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Old 08-31-2005, 09:21 PM
beachbum beachbum is offline
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Default Still trying to increase WtSD #2

Villian is loose preflop, and neutrally aggressive post.

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Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls, BB calls, MP calls.

Flop: (8 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, MP checks, Hero checks.

Bet the flop or take the free card? I definitely would bet the A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].

Turn: (4 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, BB folds, MP folds, Hero calls.

River: (6 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 7 BB

It seems like a pretty easy fold, I just want to make sure. Pot's pretty small. He could've been betting that Jack on the turn though. Is this a good place to raise the turn and take a free showdown? I've got a lot of pot equity here.
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Old 08-31-2005, 10:38 PM
LImitPlayer LImitPlayer is offline
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Default Re: Still trying to increase WtSD #2

This is an easy flop bet.

Once you bet the flop the rest of the hand plays out differently
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Old 08-31-2005, 10:58 PM
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Default Re: Still trying to increase WtSD #2

I'd bet the flop, check the turn, and call the river. Pre-flop looked like how I would play it though. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 09-01-2005, 03:04 AM
w_alloy w_alloy is offline
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Default Re: Still trying to increase WtSD #2

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I'd bet the flop, check the turn, and call the river.

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first quote post [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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Old 09-01-2005, 03:31 AM
protocol protocol is offline
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Default Re: Still trying to increase WtSD #2

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It seems like a pretty easy fold

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I feel exactly the opposite. I think he is betting a Jack or a pair with the Ah far more than 1/8 of the time, making this an easy river call.
Also, I would definately bet the flop, so that I can hopefully take a free card if neccessary.
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Old 09-01-2005, 03:46 AM
protocol protocol is offline
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Default Re: Still trying to increase WtSD #2

Just out of curiousity, what is your WtSD, because I also feel that mine is much too low(~33), which makes me wonder why we disagree on this hand.
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Old 09-01-2005, 03:48 AM
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Default Re: Still trying to increase WtSD #2

I definitely call. You are beat most of the time here but not nearly enough compared to the odds you are getting.
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Old 09-01-2005, 04:03 AM
pfkaok pfkaok is offline
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Default Re: Still trying to increase WtSD #2

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It seems like a pretty easy fold, I just want to make sure. Pot's pretty small.

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In a HU pot on the river, 7BB pot isn't too small. He could have a lot of different pairs here, or even just the A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

I like call here, but betting flop is better, and the hand would have played differently.
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