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Old 08-30-2005, 07:28 AM
krishanleong krishanleong is offline
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Default Perfect free showdown raise...

Party Poker 10/20 Hold'em (6 max, 5 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP with 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls.

Flop: (4.50 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (4.25 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB calls.

Villian is taggy.

Krishan
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Old 08-30-2005, 07:31 AM
Jeff W Jeff W is offline
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Default Re: Perfect free showdown raise...

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Villian is taggy.

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I think I was BB in this hand. I had 87o and called the turn with the intention of folding the river.
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Old 08-30-2005, 07:32 AM
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Default Re: Perfect free showdown raise...

seems like an arbitrary use of it to me. it's not very effective against draws. and with only 5 bets in the pot, making him fold isn't a big goal
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Old 08-30-2005, 07:33 AM
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Villian is taggy.

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I think I was BB in this hand. I had 87o and called the turn with the intention of folding the river.

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Old 08-30-2005, 07:34 AM
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I like it if he is aggressive with his draws but not tricky enough to do a bluff-donkbet at the river.
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Old 08-30-2005, 07:35 AM
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I like it if he is aggressive with his draws but not tricky enough to do a bluff-donkbet at the river.

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you don't gain anything against a draw. if anything you probably lose
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Old 08-30-2005, 07:38 AM
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Do you think I should have planned to check-call river unimproved if no scare card hits?
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Old 08-30-2005, 07:40 AM
krishanleong krishanleong is offline
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Villian is taggy.

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I think I was BB in this hand. I had 87o and called the turn with the intention of folding the river.

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I actually thought after the hand that you would have folded the river. But firing the last bullet is not profitable in that spot long term.

Krishan
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Old 08-30-2005, 07:43 AM
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I like it if he is aggressive with his draws but not tricky enough to do a bluff-donkbet at the river.

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you don't gain anything against a draw. if anything you probably lose

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Interesting. You are probably right. I am going to think about this some more...
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Old 08-30-2005, 07:44 AM
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I like it if he is aggressive with his draws but not tricky enough to do a bluff-donkbet at the river.

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you don't gain anything against a draw. if anything you probably lose

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I disagree. Jeff what would you do if you held 9t or a flushdraw on the river if I just called your turn bet? What % of time would you bet?

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