Operation Syrian Freedom

[Jedi Poker]

Ideally, the Iraq campaign was just an openning phase of a bigger plan that implements the Bush Doctrine of taking the fight to the terrorists in the Middle East. "A good offense is the best defense", "An ounce of prevention is worth a ton of cure". Thanks to the success of our war with Iraq, thousands of Arab terrorists who would have eventually found their way into the United States where they could have killed tens and thousands of innocent American civilians, have been killed or captured even before they could begin (it turns out that many of those captured are from Syria, Palestine and Egypt).

The Syrian Regime, which hosts terrorists, suicide bombers, and perhaps holds weapons of mass destruction (including possibly those owned by Saddam - which will explain why we won't find any in Iraq) should be next. And we must do it as early as possible. We must attack Syria while the International Brotherhood of Arab Terrorists (with members from Egypt, Palestine, Yemen, Saudi Arabia and other places) are still very pissed at us for having attacked Iraq. By attacking Syria now, the anger that these terrorists are feeling towards us will be so unbearable, it would compel them to immediately go to Syria where they will take arms beside their Syrian brothers so they can drive us "infidels" away. When this happens, we'll have them where we want them and we can proceed to exterminate them with minimal loss to ourselves.

Better to attack them there than to play defense against them here. War against Syria would be the Bush Doctrine at its highest expression. I would support it in a blink of an eye.

[Cyrus]

Jedi, my man? Crazy can be so sexy.

Just don't pack when out on a date.

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[Jedi Poker]

Syria is the hub of Arab terrorists. It is where they hold their summits. It is where they exchange ideas and form new alliances. It is where they hold conventions and tradeshows in which they get to share their most recent suicide bombing techniques and gadgets. It may also be the main newbie terrorist/suicide bomber recruitment center in the Middle East.

As I said earlier, an attack on Syria will anger and therefore magnetize all terrorists in the other Arab states into Syria where they can have a shot at "martyrdom" when they fight side by side with their Syrian brothers to drive us, the so-called "infidels", away. When they do this, they play into our hands because they will become easy pickin' for our troops. Better to have them there (where we can easily swat them like flies) than in a New York subway, a famous US landmark like the Golden Gate bridge, or in Disneyland where they can kill tens and thousands of innocent American men, women, and children.
The Bush Administration, which believes that we must take the fight to the enemy, knows this. Therefore, our troops will be inside Syria before Christmas this year. You heard it here first.

[TimTimSalabim]

I predict he'll save the attack until next summer, when he can get maximum voter mileage. Surely he's not going to get re-elected based on the economy, he can only hope that voters won't want to change horses in the middle of WW3.

[Jedi Poker]

Syria this year. Iran next year. Both for the same strategic reason - namely, to effectively carry out the all-nescessary and morally justified Bush Doctrine of pre-empting the Arab terrorists in their home turf.

Bush wouldn't need a war to win re-election because the economy will probably have rebounded by election day. You heard it here first.

[Ray Zee]

great idea. then iran and egypt, then get them out of saudi arabia. then we have the oil. then the commies have to go. russia china,korea, cuba. soon we can have a truly master race. i think i remember someone trying that before.

[Jedi Poker]

It's all about self-defense against potential Arab terrorists inside US soil NOT about becoming a "master race". The Department of Homeland Security is the shield while the military actions in Iraq (and then hopefully Syria and Iran) is the sword.

Using the shield and "playing great defense" won't do the trick. We have to follow the "a good offense is the best defense" maxim by taking it to the terrorists in their home turf. Keep jabs and straights on their faces instead of just doing a rope-a-dope.

By doing what they did back in 9/11, the terrorists effectively declared war against us. We are in a state of war. Defense never won a war no matter how great. Only offense can achieve victory.

[Cyrus]

We have no offensive objectives anywhere. Ours is a peace-seeking country. I call upon the gentlemen of European governments to understand this and to help us build together a world of peace.

..I'm paraphrasing the words of a German leader, only months before he ordered a "pre-emptive" strike against Poland, "in self-sefense", in 1939. I forget his damn name.

[Jedi Poker]

The man who said that was a pure dictator who didn't have checks and balances. His was a Fascist regime. Our man Bush has checks and balances. In fact he couldn't even get the tax plan he wanted. There is no comparison between the two countries.

The terrorists/homicide bombers WANT to kill us, and they don't care whether "us" means our military personel or our innocent men, women, and children. They have expressed this aim in their words and in their deeds.

Ever since 3,000 innocent Americans were murdered in 9/11, we have in fact been at war against terrorism. And war can never be won with defense. The Bush Administration knows this and it is doing the right thing by following the principle of taking the war to the enemy.

Our offensive is self-defense and it is more than justified.

[ACPlayer]

I would urge people to be vigilant and ensure that the checks and balances are in place and will continue to be there.

At present they are few and far between. To wit:

Internal Checks and Balances:
- A bruised writ of habeas corpus
- A rubber stamp republican house which will pass anything sent by the administration
- A mostly rubber stamp republican senate
- A democratic party in complete disarray
- An ever increasingly pliant judiciary
- An inner circle in the white house of like minded hawks


On the internation side:

- The UN sec council which has been run over
- The NATO alliance where major western powers are not speaking to each other (Chirac and Bush have not had even a phone call in months, even when we were going the extra mile in diplomacy).
- The international courts that have been undermined.

I wish I was as sanguine as some that the war on Iraq will substantially reduce our risks, at the cost of thousands on innocent lives, billions of dollars, bruised friendships, etc, etc. If we end up with a Shah of Iraq (hopefully not) trouble looms....

Note, there are definite pluses to what we have done too. But lets not run with blinders on and keep asking questions rather than repeating the Rush/Fox propoganda.