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Old 08-25-2005, 02:11 PM
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Default Had a chance to bust 3 ppl out and getting 2-1 in $, do you call this?

PP $30+3
Blinds are 150/75, 7 player left, 3 players are all in.

I'm the BB and my stack is 1400 after posting. Pot is 1030 it cost me 525 to call (getting 2-1 in money) and I had a chance to bust 3 players out, do you make this call here?


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Total number of players : 7
Seat 1: Tigeren (All in) (240)
Seat 2: PartyRocks (BB) 1550)
Seat 3: what1985 (All in)(675)
Seat 4: fartman69sam (1970)
Seat 5: TECMOBOWL2 (All in)(40)
Seat 7: JMHMBEA (1435)
Seat 10: PAPASLY (2090)
Tigeren posts small blind (75)
PartyRocks posts big blind (150)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to PartyRocks [ Kd, 8h ]
what1985 raises (675) to 675
what1985 is all-In.
fartman69sam folds.
TECMOBOWL2 calls (40)
TECMOBOWL2 is all-In.
JMHMBEA folds.
PAPASLY folds.
Tigeren calls (165)
Tigeren is all-In.
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Old 08-25-2005, 02:18 PM
junkmail3 junkmail3 is offline
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Default Re: Had a chance to bust 3 ppl out and getting 2-1 in $, do you call this?

You can bust three people, but you'll lose over 1/3 of your stack if you lose. Just let it go.
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Old 08-25-2005, 02:23 PM
applejuicekid applejuicekid is offline
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Default Re: Had a chance to bust 3 ppl out and getting 2-1 in $, do you call this?

I think folding is better. Like junkmail said losing will cost too much of your stack. Also, I don't care about busting people with 7 people left. And two of the shortstacks will prolly go bust soon anyway.
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Old 08-25-2005, 02:25 PM
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Default Re: Had a chance to bust 3 ppl out and getting 2-1 in $, do you call t

Chances are 1 or 2 ppl are gonna bust out of the tourney anyways, and even though you are getting 2:1, I think you are a dog to the initial raiser and probably has less than a 33% chance of winning the multiway pot. I would stay away and let them take each other out.
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Old 08-25-2005, 02:33 PM
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Default Re: Had a chance to bust 3 ppl out and getting 2-1 in $, do you call t

Calling here would be awful.
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Old 08-25-2005, 02:37 PM
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Default Re: Had a chance to bust 3 ppl out and getting 2-1 in $, do you call this?

This is a results oriented post. As Tigerite said calling here would be awful.
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Old 08-25-2005, 03:05 PM
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Default Re: Had a chance to bust 3 ppl out and getting 2-1 in $, do you call this?

Thank you for all the replys, I appreciate it.
Here is the result. It turns out that I had the best hand preflop.










***** Hand History for Game 2595476110 *****
150/300 Tourney Texas Hold'em Game Table (NL) (Tournament 15149758) - Thu Aug 25 13:57:21 EDT 2005
Table Table 11226 (Real Money) -- Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 7
Seat 1: Tigeren (240)
Seat 2: PartyRocks (1550)
Seat 3: what1985 (675)
Seat 4: fartman69sam (1970)
Seat 5: TECMOBOWL2 (40)
Seat 7: JMHMBEA (1435)
Seat 10: PAPASLY (2090)
Tigeren posts small blind (75)
PartyRocks posts big blind (150)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to PartyRocks [ Kd, 8h ]
what1985 raises (675) to 675
what1985 is all-In.
fartman69sam folds.
TECMOBOWL2 calls (40)
TECMOBOWL2 is all-In.
JMHMBEA folds.
PAPASLY folds.
Tigeren calls (165)
Tigeren is all-In.
PartyRocks calls (525)
Creating Main Pot with $160 with TECMOBOWL2
Creating Side Pot 1 with $600 with Tigeren
Creating Side Pot 2 with $870 with what1985
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Qh, 4d, Ah ]
** Dealing Turn ** : [ Jh ]
** Dealing River ** : [ 5d ]
** Summary **
Main Pot: 160 | Side Pot 1: 600 | Side Pot 2: 870 |
Board: [ Qh 4d Ah Jh 5d ]
Tigeren balance 0, lost 240 [ 9s 8s ] [ high card ace -- Ah,Qh,Jh,9s,8s ]
PartyRocks balance 875, lost 675 [ Kd 8h ] [ high card ace -- Ah,Kd,Qh,Jh,8h ]
what1985 balance 1630, bet 675, collected 1630, net +955 [ Jd Qd ] [ two pairs, queens and jacks -- Ah,Qd,Qh,Jd,Jh ]
fartman69sam balance 1970, didn't bet (folded)
TECMOBOWL2 balance 0, lost 40 [ 3h Kc ] [ high card ace with king kicker -- Ah,Kc,Qh,Jh,5d ]
JMHMBEA balance 1435, didn't bet (folded)
PAPASLY balance 2090, didn't bet (folded)
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Old 08-25-2005, 03:07 PM
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Default Re: Had a chance to bust 3 ppl out and getting 2-1 in $, do you call this?

Next time when the same situation happens, I'll learn how to fold it.
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Old 08-25-2005, 03:24 PM
se2schul se2schul is offline
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Default Re: Had a chance to bust 3 ppl out and getting 2-1 in $, do you call t

[ QUOTE ]
Thank you for all the replys, I appreciate it.
Here is the result. It turns out that I had the best hand preflop.

[/ QUOTE ]

You didn't have the best hand preflop. Now K8 is better than QJ heads up just as K8 is better than 98 headsup. The problem is that you aren't heads up in this pot.

Go to twodimes and try it. Here is the result:
Kd 8h 476675 34.77 863031 62.96 31048 2.27 0.358
9s 8s 334925 24.43 1004781 73.30 31048 2.27 0.255
Qd Jd 528106 38.53 834711 60.89 7937 0.58 0.387

You're only 36% to win compared to QJ that is 38%.

This isn't the reason to fold however...

The reason to fold is that you have a heathly stack and with 2 all-ins in front of you, chances are pretty good that you are WAY behind in the hand. You can fold and look for a better spot. As it turned out, you were playing morons. So, instead of playing a junk hand like those 2 morons, why don't you wait for a good hand and take all their money [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]
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Old 08-25-2005, 04:57 PM
benfranklin benfranklin is offline
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Default Re: Had a chance to bust 3 ppl out and getting 2-1 in $, do you call t

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I had a chance to bust 3 players out

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It is not your job to bust players out.

And you didn't have much of a chance to do it anyway. You obviously have zero fold equity, that hand doesn't figure to win unimproved, and if you hit the king you have a good chance of being dominated. With 3 opponents going to the river, no doubt holding a wide range of cards, a big suck-out is a distinct possibility. Fold.
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