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Old 08-25-2005, 01:20 PM
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Default 30+3 4.5x BB w/ 26s in the button, do you push here?

EDIT: Easybay's program says +1.0% EV if both are loose player and +0.2$ EV if they both are manic.
Do you still push in this spot?


NL Texas Hold'em $30 Buy-in + $3 Entry Fee Trny:15148100 Level:4 Blinds(50/100)
Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 7
Seat 1: TransyStar (BB) ( $550 )
Seat 3: Kantii ( $815 )
Seat 4: pavilion222 ( $1695 )
Seat 5: superlav ( $480 )
Seat 6: takeacheck ( $310 )
Seat 7: PartyRocks (BUTTON) ( $460 )
Seat 8: bserber (SB) ( $3690 )
Trny:15148100 Level:4
Blinds(50/100)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to PartyRocks [ 2c 6c ]
Kantii folds.
pavilion222 folds.
superlav folds.
takeacheck folds.
PartyRocks is all-In [460]
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Old 08-25-2005, 01:25 PM
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Default Re: 30+3 4.5x BB w/ 26s in the button, do you push here?

No, the BB chip stack is too big, making it a definate call for him.
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Old 08-25-2005, 01:26 PM
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Default Re: 30+3 4.5x BB w/ 26s in the button, do you push here?

i appreciate the urgency, and i'm def. pushing this orbit....

hmmm, an open-push is ideal of course, decreasing the chance of a call - or going 2-3way. but your neighbor is just too rich to push this one IMO. 78 maybe...just something that can withstand the "dominated" call a tad better. i'd probably fold, looking to push one of the next 4 hands.
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Old 08-25-2005, 01:28 PM
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Default Re: 30+3 4.5x BB w/ 26s in the button, do you push here?

If his stack was >T1500, I'd push.

But man, he's calling you every single time.
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Old 08-25-2005, 01:38 PM
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Default Re: 30+3 4.5x BB w/ 26s in the button, do you push here?

Easybay's program says +1.0% EV if both are loose player and +0.2$ EV if they both are manic.
Do you still push in this spot?
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Old 08-25-2005, 01:48 PM
gisb0rne gisb0rne is offline
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Default Re: 30+3 4.5x BB w/ 26s in the button, do you push here?

It doesn't surprise me that this is +EV. The reason (I think) is that you have so few chips and there's so many players left that you don't have much equity to begin with. Keep in mind that each hand you fold this rotation increases the number of players to act behind you. Also, in my experience the big stack doesn't always call very loosely. When you have AA on the button with these stack sizes do you always get called? I sure don't.
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Old 08-25-2005, 01:57 PM
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Default Re: 30+3 4.5x BB w/ 26s in the button, do you push here?

It's ugly. But, I'm still pushing this. SB & BB will still fold more than they should here. This may be your last chance to open push with any FE.
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Old 08-25-2005, 02:25 PM
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Default Re: 30+3 4.5x BB w/ 26s in the button, do you push here?

I push here every single time.
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Old 08-25-2005, 02:27 PM
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Default Re: 30+3 4.5x BB w/ 26s in the button, do you push here?

[ QUOTE ]
Easybay's program says +1.0% EV if both are loose player and +0.2$ EV if they both are manic.
Do you still push in this spot?

[/ QUOTE ]

You do realise the "manic" setting is like ~23% of hands, right? I really wish eastbay would remove those settings, they're not useful for this kind of situation at all.
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Old 08-25-2005, 03:47 PM
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Default Re: 30+3 4.5x BB w/ 26s in the button, do you push here?

Thanks for all the replys, here is the result.
SB called w/ AJs and I was lucky enought to turned a st8 doubled up and came back won the whole thing.



#Game No : 2595081597
***** Hand History for Game 2595081597 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $30 Buy-in + $3 Entry Fee Trny:15148100 Level:4 Blinds(50/100) - Thursday, August 25, 11:55:18 EDT 2005
Table Table 11224 (Real Money)
Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 7
Seat 1: TransyStar ( $550 )
Seat 3: Kantii ( $815 )
Seat 4: pavilion222 ( $1695 )
Seat 5: superlav ( $480 )
Seat 6: takeacheck ( $310 )
Seat 7: PartyRocks ( $460 )
Seat 8: bserber ( $3690 )
Trny:15148100 Level:4
Blinds(50/100)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to PartyRocks [ 2c 6c ]
Kantii folds.
pavilion222 folds.
superlav folds.
takeacheck folds.
>You have options at Table 11279 Table!.
PartyRocks is all-In [460]
bserber calls [410].
TransyStar folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 4s, 3h, 3s ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 5c ]
** Dealing River ** [ 7s ]
bserber shows [ Ah, Jh ] a pair of threes.
PartyRocks shows [ 2c, 6c ] a straight, three to seven.
PartyRocks wins 1020 chips from the main pot with a straight, three to seven.
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