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Old 08-25-2005, 10:47 AM
iceman5 iceman5 is offline
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Default Let the LAG bet my hand for me?

What do you guys think about this hand? $5/$10 NL

Lag raises to $40 in EP. I am the only caller in the BB with AQs. I only have 60 hands with him, but his VIP is 60% and his preflop raise is 15-20%. Hes involved in alot of hands past the flop but hasnt gone crazy and is winning.

Pot is $85. Flop comes Q92 with 2 diamonds (I have clubs). I check. He bets $50 and I call.

Pot $185. Turn is a 7. He bets $80 and I call. Ive pretty much decided to just call him down and let him bet my hand for me. The only thing Im afraid of is a K, or maybe a diamond. He has to think Im chasing diamonds since Im just calling. I think he either has me beat with AA / KK or more likely he has KQ / QJ or something like that.

Most people would say that I have to put in a raise somewhere "to define my hand". I dont subscribe to that theory. I think calling him down has some merit because he will bet alot of hands that I beat since Im not getting aggressive and he probably thinks I chasing the flush. What do you think?

Pot $345. River is another 2 . I check / call $110.

1) What does he have?
2) Who wins?
3) What do you think of my passive play here?
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Old 08-25-2005, 11:11 AM
tradingman123 tradingman123 is offline
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Default Re: Let the LAG bet my hand for me?

1) What does he have?

K/Q ~ 60% of time, Q/J ~ 20%, A/Q ~ 10%, Air ~ 10%
2) Who wins?

You do, at worst its a split.

3) What do you think of my passive play here?

I think it looks fine. What would have done if he overbet teh river or turn?
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Old 08-25-2005, 11:35 AM
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Default Re: Let the LAG bet my hand for me?

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You do, at worst its a split.



[/ QUOTE ]uhh??? he does not have the nut hand. not really even close... not even close to close. LOL.
BTW/ this looks ok iceman... i think betting 2/3 on riv would be good, but i dont mind the check/call if this guy is agggro.
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Old 08-25-2005, 11:42 AM
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Default Re: Let the LAG bet my hand for me?

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[/ QUOTE ]uhh??? he does not have the nut hand. not really even close... not even close to close. LOL.


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Why would a LAG not use his image to bet big when he has a bigger hand. Seems like he wants to show it down.
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Old 08-25-2005, 12:28 PM
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Default Re: Let the LAG bet my hand for me?

This smells and feels like a weaker Q, probably KQ, could be QJ. I'm guessing KQ. There is both a flush draw and a straight draw and Villain doesn't seem interested in protecting his hand. It looks like his flop bet advertises a Q, but he could be betting the draw. Since it's a raised pot you obviously had some cards worth a $40 call. His pot lead is either weak or he's looking for (or afraid of) a check-raise.

I don't see any advantage in taking away the action from a LAGgy. Good plan to let him bet your hand for you. Call the flop and check to him again on the turn. His weak turn bet looks like you called it correctly, so show it down and show me the money.
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Old 08-25-2005, 12:38 PM
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Default Re: Let the LAG bet my hand for me?

The problem is the LAG will bet the turn and river bigger when he has you beat, and you'll still have to call.

My default is to put in a healthy turn check raise.
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Old 08-25-2005, 12:41 PM
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Default Re: Let the LAG bet my hand for me?

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The problem is the LAG will bet the turn and river bigger when he has you beat, and you'll still have to call.

My default is to put in a healthy turn check raise.

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Well if he makes it that obvious when he has a big hand (and Im not sure he does since I only have 60 hands with him)..cant I call him down when he bets small and fold when he bets big? Why fold him off his medium to weak hand with a check raise?
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Old 08-25-2005, 12:42 PM
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Default Re: Let the LAG bet my hand for me?

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The problem is the LAG will bet the turn and river bigger when he has you beat, and you'll still have to call.

My default is to put in a healthy turn check raise.

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Well if he makes it that obvious when he has a big hand (and Im not sure he does since I only have 60 hands with him)..cant I call him down when he bets small and fold when he bets big? Why fold him off his medium to weak hand with a check raise?

[/ QUOTE ]iceman just totally sonned you dog.
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Old 08-25-2005, 01:26 PM
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I called him down and he had K3 of hearts. No pair, no draw. [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]
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Old 08-25-2005, 05:58 PM
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Default Re: Let the LAG bet my hand for me?

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Seems like he wants to show it down.

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It does?
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