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Old 08-25-2005, 01:42 AM
whitelime whitelime is offline
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Default 5/10 Semi Deep Stacks. Muck KK preflop here or postflop or never?

Opponent is 50/23. I've reraised quite a few people preflop on this table and each time they've laid it down. Haven't played much with this opponent (300 hands).

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Hero ($1886)
BB ($490)
UTG ($765.25)
MP ($677.80)
CO ($961.79)
Button ($2723.57)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $5.
UTG calls $10, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $45</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero (poster) raises to $145</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG folds, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $350</font>, Hero calls $200.

Flop: ($720) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $718</font>, Hero calls ???
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Old 08-25-2005, 01:47 AM
Big_Jim Big_Jim is offline
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Default Re: 5/10 Semi Deep Stacks. Muck KK preflop here or postflop or never?

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Opponent is 50/23.

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No.
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Old 08-25-2005, 01:49 AM
radioheadfan radioheadfan is offline
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Default Re: 5/10 Semi Deep Stacks. Muck KK preflop here or postflop or never?

I hope you checked the flop with the intent of CRing all in. No way I muck on that flop.
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Old 08-25-2005, 02:31 AM
fimbulwinter fimbulwinter is offline
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Default get it in on the flop n/t

rfe
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Old 08-25-2005, 02:46 AM
FoxwoodsFiend FoxwoodsFiend is offline
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Default Re: 5/10 Semi Deep Stacks. Muck KK preflop here or postflop or never?

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Opponent is 50/23.

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This has to be a joke right? Only reason to not push preflop is to get more money in the pot before pushing there. You think a 50/23 player isn't getting married to JJ or QQ here?

Just saw Big Jim touched on this also...didn't mean to steal his thunder with quoting the numbers
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Old 08-25-2005, 09:10 AM
AZK AZK is offline
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Default Re: 5/10 Semi Deep Stacks. Muck KK preflop here or postflop or never?

50/23 is true. And he is good.
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Old 08-25-2005, 09:57 AM
turnipmonster turnipmonster is offline
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Default Re: 5/10 Semi Deep Stacks. Muck KK preflop here or postflop or never?

of course a high pfr doesn't say anything about this guy's reraising standards.
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Old 08-25-2005, 11:31 AM
CamelZoo CamelZoo is offline
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Default Re: 5/10 Semi Deep Stacks. Muck KK preflop here or postflop or never?

devil's advocate... for all those who replied to post advocating C/R all in, etc. how many times in your experience have you been 3-bet pf and not seen AA? LAG's eat these moments up, where an opponent won't give them credit for a made hand, in this case AA, because of numbers like 50/23. i'm probably not going to fold here, but it should at least cross your mind before you throw your stack in, no?
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Old 08-25-2005, 11:32 AM
CamelZoo CamelZoo is offline
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Default Re: 5/10 Semi Deep Stacks. Muck KK preflop here or postflop or never?

ps i don't anyone here would ever advocate folding KK in this spot pf
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Old 08-25-2005, 12:56 PM
greg nice greg nice is offline
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Default Re: 5/10 Semi Deep Stacks. Muck KK preflop here or postflop or never?

like someone already said, i hope you planned on c/r all in as this is a flop that you want. otherwise fold preflop.
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