crappy overpair level 2

schwza · #1 08-24-2005, 10:57 AM

this is a 33. no reads. i got my chips getting a-i pre-flop with AA in an uncreative way. comments on all streets appreciated.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (10 handed) converter

UTG+2 (t2122)
MP1 (t2400)
MP2 (t1210)
MP3 (t995)
CO (t1515)
Button (t735)
SB (t845)
BB (t828)
Hero (t1775)
UTG+1 (t1205)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
Hero calls t30, 3 folds, MP2 calls t30, 2 folds, Button calls t30, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t150) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets t120, MP2 raises to t300, Button folds, SB folds, BB folds, Hero folds.

Final Pot: t570

Ixnert · #2 08-24-2005, 11:11 AM

Pretty much the same way I play it, other than raising a bit less on the flop (I usually go 90-100 here), but I can't imagine that making a difference here.

downtown · #3 08-24-2005, 11:40 AM

Standard. I shut down to the flop raise as well - I've really found a lot more benefit to holding on to those chips for stealing blinds later. I might get fancy if I had another 500 chips and push, but I like where you're at right now, you took a stab and could effectively reevaluate a turn given call, but you were raised and a fold is in order.

pooh74 · #4 08-24-2005, 11:53 AM

I would bet less on the flop. With so many in the pot a half pot bet wont be perceived as weak per se and actually seems stronger to me. I see so many people over bet pots multiway (not that you did necessarily) that they are just begging to be taken away.

The fold is instant for me. I dont see what you're ahead of here at a 33 enough of the time to justify a call.

Unarmed · #5 08-24-2005, 02:53 PM

I check the flop and fold to any reasonable bet. Honestly, your hand has very little value here against 5 opponents on a connected board. When deciding whether to bet a hand like this, make sure you think of what you're planning to do on subsequent streets when different cards fall. In this exact situation, the turn and river are often going to be extremely difficult to play, especially if you're OOP. There's no harm in check/folding the best hand here and in many cases like this where you stand to win very little or lose a ton.