How'd I play this? Just looking for feedback.

#1 08-23-2005, 11:28 PM

Party Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, 1 fold, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, CO calls, Button calls, 1 fold, Hero raises, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, CO calls, Button calls.

Flop: (14.50 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (7 players)
Hero bets, UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 raises, CO folds, Button calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (10.25 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, MP3 bets, Button calls, Hero calls.

River: (13.25 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, MP3 bets, Button calls, Hero raises, MP3 3-bets, Button calls, Hero caps, MP3 calls, Button calls.

Final Pot: 25.25 BB

Vote4Pedro · #2 08-23-2005, 11:30 PM

Cap the flop, Cap the turn, Cap the river...theres no reason to get tricky against .5/1 monkeys

cold_cash · #3 08-23-2005, 11:33 PM

I likely would have 3-bet the flop and just kept on firing.

I hate the turn check, but after you've done it, I hate the lack of a check-raise even more.

Nobody's calling on the river with four diamonds, but they'll call on the turn.

#4 08-23-2005, 11:33 PM

The reason I didn't cap the flop is because he had flopped a flush on me a few hands earlier and after about 30 hands he is read as LAP. On the turn when I hit the full house, I thought that the other guy not the LAP was on a draw so I figured it was safe to call behind and c/r the river knowing that the LAP would bet again and the guy would call. I didn't know he would be 4 betting with me but now I know. Again I only did this because he is read as LAP right now.

Harv72b · #5 08-23-2005, 11:34 PM

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Cap the flop, Cap the turn, Cap the river...theres no reason to get tricky against .5/1 monkeys

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In addition, any high, single diamond (and many not-so-high single diamonds) will gladly call as many raises as you can make on the flop & turn. The same will not be true on the river.

cold_cash · #6 08-23-2005, 11:35 PM

If you somehow "knew" the Button was on a draw, not raising the turn when you have the chance to trap him for an extra bet is even worse.

davelin · #7 08-23-2005, 11:36 PM

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On the turn when I hit the full house, I thought that the other guy not the LAP was on a draw so I figured it was safe to call behind and c/r the river...

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If the third player is on a draw, why would he call bets on the river when his draw misses?

benkath1 · #8 08-23-2005, 11:38 PM

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The reason I didn't cap the flop is because he had flopped a flush on me a few hands earlier and after about 30 hands he is read as LAP. On the turn when I hit the full house, I thought that the other guy not the LAP was on a draw so I figured it was safe to call behind and c/r the river knowing that the LAP would bet again and the guy would call. I didn't know he would be 4 betting with me but now I know. Again I only did this because he is read as LAP right now.

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How bout including some of this pertinent information in your OP.

cappity cap cap,
cappity cap cap,
look at cappy go.

detruncate · #9 08-24-2005, 12:27 AM

Welcome to the forum. Provide reads with your post. We need to know what you did.

Even if he flipped over a made flush on the flop a 3-bet would be for value -- slim value, but value none the less. You'll make a boat or quads ~36.6% of the time and are only putting in 33.3% of the pot. Add to that the fact that Villain is much more likely to have a hand you're ahead of than to have flopped a flush and it's a rock solid 3-bet for value.

Waiting for the turn is not a great strategy OOP with this board. It's going to check through a lot. It's even worse in this case, as a weak Ace or flush might be scared off when the board pairs. Once it goes to plan, though, you need to c/r. Diamonds aren't going anywhere, but will fold the river unless they hit their draw. You have both opponents trapped. A flush or 8 will probably put in many bets. You need to raise.

The river is obviously fine.

Marquis · #10 08-24-2005, 12:32 AM

The problem with waiting until the river with your big monster is all the bets you missed on the turn when the opponent has a smaller monster.