QQ on a scary board.

Jeff W · #1 08-23-2005, 09:16 PM

MP is 40/10/1.2 over 1000 hands(mostly 7-10 handed). Checkraise%=1.9

Party Poker Hold'em (6 handed)

Preflop: Jeff W is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
1 fold, MP calls, CO calls, Jeff W raises, 2 folds, MP calls, CO calls.

Flop: (7.50 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
MP checks, CO checks, Jeff W bets, MP raises, CO folds, Jeff W calls.

Turn: (5.75 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP bets, Jeff W calls.

River: (7.75 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP bets, Jeff W calls.

baronzeus · #2 08-23-2005, 10:02 PM

Hi Jeff:

I think I fold the river, even given 9:1. As much as I want to show this down, unless you have seen him coldcall with hands like J9 and check-raise middle pair into a preflop raiser, you are beat at least 90% of the time.

It's close, I'm re-reading and will reply if I change my mind.

Roy6 · #3 08-23-2005, 10:02 PM

Unless I have a note he'd play a 9 this way, I'm folding the river.

deepsquat · #4 08-23-2005, 10:14 PM

Why are we callig the turn and folding the river, because of the K or the flush?

I can see calling the flop with the Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] but i would think that we are drawing to 2 outs here a high % of the time.

Cancuk · #5 08-23-2005, 10:21 PM

excuse me if i'm an idiot..but do you really think your ahead here on the flop?

cheers

Jeff W · #6 08-24-2005, 12:15 AM

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excuse me if i'm an idiot..but do you really think your ahead here on the flop?

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Not always, but his line would be very akward for a pair of aces and he is very aggressive.

Perhaps this hand comes down to table feel. I thought strongly about folding the river, but I felt that there was still a chance he was out of line and the Ks was the perfect scare card.

imported_leader · #7 08-24-2005, 12:21 AM

Maybe this is just crazy, but what if you 3-bet the flop. If he caps you, it's a pretty easy fold on the turn UI. If he just calls, you can check through the turn and get to showdown for 1.5BB(assuming he beats the river) instead of 2BB.

bank · #8 08-24-2005, 12:23 AM

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Maybe this is just crazy, but what if you 3-bet the flop. If he caps you, it's a pretty easy fold on the turn UI. If he just calls, you can check through the turn and get to showdown for 1.5BB(assuming he beats the river) instead of 2BB.

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I don't like it. What if the opponent is capable of capping a flush draw or middle pair on flop? Jeff has said that he is very aggressive.

I like your play Jeff. River is very close...but I would fold.

Jeff W · #9 08-24-2005, 12:23 AM

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Maybe this is just crazy.

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Yep. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

I never use lines like this because I can't trust my opponents(especially aggressive ones) to behave and check the turn. Also, I want to squeeze another bet out of a bluff and another 2 bets out of a semi-bluff/missed draw.

imported_leader · #10 08-24-2005, 12:26 AM

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Maybe this is just crazy.

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Yep. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

I never use lines like this because I can't trust my opponents(especially aggressive ones) to behave and check the turn. Also, I want to squeeze another bet out of a bluff and another 2 bets out of a semi-bluff/missed draw.

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Yeah, it was just a thought. Thoughts like that are probably why my flop aggression is 3.5. [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]