TPTK on flop, but then....

Bats · #1 08-23-2005, 04:28 PM

I couldn't figure out what this guy was doing. What do I do here?

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Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. UTG posts a blind of $0.50.
UTG+1 calls, 1 fold, MP1 calls, Hero calls, MP3 calls, CO calls, 2 folds, UTG (poster) checks.

Flop: (6.50 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6 players)
UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, Hero bets, MP3 calls, CO raises, UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, Hero calls, MP3 calls.

Turn: (6.25 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets, MP3 calls, CO calls.

River: (9.25 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)

Final Pot: 9.25 BB
Hero bets, MP3 raises, CO folds.

Hero ?????,

I had TPTK on the flop, but flopped straights are possible and draws almost certain. But with top pair I bet, get raised and call. Could be beat right here with a straight, but who knows. Turn gives a straight to anyone with a Q, and a paired K beats me, but I bet figuring I'll fold to a raise. No one raises me, so no one likely has a straight or a K. River gives me two pair, I bet. MP3 who has been calling and checking raises and the CO who raised the flop folds. What's likely going on? Do I fold, call, raise?

Fryguy · #2 08-23-2005, 04:36 PM

check/fold this turn with confidence.

aces_dad · #3 08-23-2005, 04:38 PM

Why are you confident about laying down the turn?

@bsolute_luck · #4 08-23-2005, 04:39 PM

raise preflop (this is the second post today i think i've seen a limped AJo).

bad turn bet IMO- should have 3-bet the flop instead.
fold the river.

others may scream "it's a big pot!!!" yeah, but you only have 2nd pair and unless you have a read this guy is a doof and bets a T or J-weak kicker, you're screwed.

aK13 · #5 08-23-2005, 04:40 PM

Raise preflop. 3bet the flop.

aces_dad · #6 08-23-2005, 04:40 PM

Are you really considering raising 2nd TPBK on this board?

You realize bottom pair may have made trips on the river right?

The options are either call or fold in my opinion, and I make the crying call on the river.

#7 08-23-2005, 04:45 PM

That is definitely pretty weird. I can't see raising, as any 9, Q, or K has us beat. I'm pretty confident we're beat, but by my calculations there only needs to be a 7.55% chance that we're ahead to make calling correct. So probably you should call, and then you'll have a read on this guy for next time.

Bats · #8 08-23-2005, 04:54 PM

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Are you really considering raising 2nd TPBK on this board?

You realize bottom pair may have made trips on the river right?

The options are either call or fold in my opinion, and I make the crying call on the river.

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No, I wasn't going to raise.

I figured he either hit a set of nines, or had slow-played a straight on the turn. I passed on the crying call and folded. Then later wished I had made the call.

aces_dad · #9 08-23-2005, 04:57 PM

It's such an unexpected bet from someone who's been just calling post flop, that I am inclined to make the crying call here.

A raise from the flop raiser is more concerning IMO.

Bats · #10 08-23-2005, 05:09 PM

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It's such an unexpected bet from someone who's been just calling post flop, that I am inclined to make the crying call here.

A raise from the flop raiser is more concerning IMO.

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I was confused because the "wrong" guy raised me after checking the turn K, and the flop raiser folded. You're right on the crying call, because if nothing else, I'd know what the heck he had.