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LPP wakes up on the turn
BB, UTG+2, and MP2 are all loose, passive players.
Paradise Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (10 handed) converter Preflop: Hero is CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG+2 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls, UTG+2 calls, MP2 calls. Flop: (8.50 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> BB checks, UTG+2 checks, MP2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls, UTG+2 calls, MP2 calls. Turn: (6.25 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 bets</font>, MP2 calls, Hero . . . |
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Re: LPP wakes up on the turn
I've seen way too much bluffing when the board pairs these days to ever consider folding here.
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Re: LPP wakes up on the turn
</font><blockquote><font class="small">En respuesta a:</font><hr />
I've seen way too much bluffing when the board pairs these days to ever consider folding here. [/ QUOTE ] exactly. ill call this down and lose most of the day, but im not folding an overpair to a bet here. |
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Re: LPP wakes up on the turn
I couldn't fold here either, but I wasn't sure if calling down was better than raising and folding to a 3-bet.
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Re: LPP wakes up on the turn
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I couldn't fold here either, but I wasn't sure if calling down was better than raising and folding to a 3-bet. [/ QUOTE ] Costs you the same to just call down and you get to see a showdown. Not to mention you have 2 outs to the almost nuts. I hate that raise/fold line. |
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Re: LPP wakes up on the turn
I think I'm inclined to call down instead of raising here as I want to get to showdown cheaply against villian without a read that he will bluff bet paired boards.
The only person you can face with 2 bets anyway would be BB so it's mostly about raising for value if you think you have villian beat. |
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Re: LPP wakes up on the turn
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[ QUOTE ] I couldn't fold here either, but I wasn't sure if calling down was better than raising and folding to a 3-bet. [/ QUOTE ] Costs you the same to just call down and you get to see a showdown. Not to mention you have 2 outs to the almost nuts. I hate that raise/fold line. [/ QUOTE ] Raise/fold is a good line against players who are capable of folding a better hand. No way is a better hand folding on this board, even in the hands of a weak-tightie, because of the board texture and how few hands are better than yours. I agree that line is terrible here, but there are spots for it. I call this down. |
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Re: LPP wakes up on the turn
Yeah, I called it down, but started second guessing myself - I wasn't thinking of raising to fold out a better hand here, I was thinking of raising to get more bets in if I'm ahead, and lose the same by folding to a 3-bet if I'm behind (I really wasn't considering my chances of hitting a 2-outer on the river).
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Re: LPP wakes up on the turn
*grunch*
I'd pop him. he could easily be donking an 8, a 2, a pp, or something random. you need a very strong read here to lay down. if he 3bets I fold and if he donks the river I prob just call. |
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Re: LPP wakes up on the turn
Thanks for the responses. If anyone's curious, here's the hand with results.
Paradise Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (10 handed) converter Preflop: Hero is CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG+2 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls, UTG+2 calls, MP2 calls. Flop: (8.50 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> BB checks, UTG+2 checks, MP2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls, UTG+2 calls, MP2 calls. Turn: (6.25 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 bets</font>, MP2 calls, Hero calls, BB folds. River: (9.25 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 bets</font>, MP2 calls, Hero calls. Final Pot: 12.25 BB Results: UTG+2 has 9c 5c (three of a kind, fives). MP2 has 3h 3d (two pair, fives and threes). Hero has Ks Kc (two pair, kings and fives). Outcome: UTG+2 wins 12.25 BB. |
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