When would you consider folding this?

JRF2k · #1 08-22-2005, 03:08 PM

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Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
1 fold, Hero calls, MP1 raises, 5 folds, Hero calls.

Flop: (5.40 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, MP1 raises, Hero calls.

Turn: (4.70 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, MP1 bets, Hero raises, MP1 3-bets, Hero calls.

River: (10.70 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, MP1 bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 12.70 BB

Bradyams · #2 08-22-2005, 03:13 PM

Raise preflop, and 3bet the flop. If you did that the hand would play much differently.

I'm not folding anywhere. If I'm behind here I plan on losing quite a bit.

numeri · #3 08-22-2005, 03:14 PM

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Raise preflop, and 3bet the flop. If you did that the hand would play much differently.

I'm not folding anywhere. If I'm behind here I plan on losing quite a bit.

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My thoughts exactly.

davelin · #4 08-22-2005, 03:14 PM

Raise pre-flop. Freakin' never.

JRF2k · #5 08-22-2005, 03:31 PM

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If I'm behind here I plan on losing quite a bit.

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Disappointingly, I was behind. I just couldn't lay three Kings down. Not on a board like that, anyway.

irishpint · #6 08-22-2005, 03:32 PM

raise pf, like everyone has said. and i wouldn't ever fold this ever.

Sykes · #7 08-22-2005, 03:47 PM

Raise preflop.

And yes I could fold this. MP2 either has JJ/99/KJ. I would put it on JJ.

666shooter · #8 08-22-2005, 03:51 PM

I tend to raise this pre-flop.

I would have 3-bet the flop. No chance in hell I'm folding this.

JRF2k · #9 08-22-2005, 03:52 PM

So I should always be raising KQs early like that? Since I am kind of new I am using a starting hands chart out of a book and it says to just call early with KQs and fold if it has been raised. Is calling -EV here? Or, wait, I was first in, so I should be raising first in, right?

ThaSaltCracka · #10 08-22-2005, 03:57 PM

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So I should always be raising KQs early like that?

[/ QUOTE ] Depending on the table this is usually the right play. [ QUOTE ]
Since I am kind of new I am using a starting hands chart out of a book and it says to just call early with KQs and fold if it has been raised.

[/ QUOTE ]What book? Don't fold to one bet PF with this hand.