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Old 08-20-2005, 04:59 PM
FiReSiStAnT FiReSiStAnT is offline
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Default I NEED HELP...IS THIS A BAD FOLD???

Okay Second level of a 5 dollar
buy in single table SNG on Poker Stars....This A/T Ends up Winning but tell me if its a bad fold and what my line should have been if I did call preflop raises....thanks for the help...


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (7 handed) converter

BB (t2970)
UTG (t1330)
MP1 (t2920)
MP2 (t1520)
CO (t1420)
Button (t1530)
Hero (t1810)

Preflop: Hero is SB with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls t30, MP1 calls t30, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls t30, Button calls t30, Hero completes, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to t90</font>, UTG calls t60, MP1 calls t60, CO calls t60, Button calls t60, Hero folds.

Flop: (t480) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG checks, MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets t120</font>, Button calls t120, BB folds, UTG calls t120, MP1 folds.

Turn: (t840) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG checks, CO checks, Button checks.

River: (t840) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG checks, CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets t120</font>, UTG folds, CO calls t120.

Final Pot: t1080
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Old 08-20-2005, 05:04 PM
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Default Re: I NEED HELP...IS THIS A BAD FOLD???

I think it's fine.
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Old 08-20-2005, 05:14 PM
Freudian Freudian is offline
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Default Re: I NEED HELP...IS THIS A BAD FOLD???

ATo gets you into a lot of trouble early on. I'd probably fold here.
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Old 08-20-2005, 05:17 PM
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Default Re: I NEED HELP...IS THIS A BAD FOLD???

it's only 60 more chips into a huge preflop pot this early, i would've called and saw what happened.

though if you have little experience with postflop play, i'd fold ATo here everytime. the fact it would've won has no relevance, don't be results oriented.
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Old 08-20-2005, 06:10 PM
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Default Re: I NEED HELP...IS THIS A BAD FOLD???

close one, but i dont like playing ATo no matter the situation. but its close here because of the pot odds. i think post flop play comes into effect here. say you called, and you got top pair now. now what? guy bets 120, do you think yout top pair is ahead here with this many limpers? well say you call and then instead of hitting 2 pair, you get a dead card but a card that may help someone else. what do you do now? check/fold? check/call?

if you suck post flop i would fold. me in general am a good post flop player, but its still so close. if it was soooted its an auto call.
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Old 08-20-2005, 06:45 PM
niquewon niquewon is offline
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Default Re: I NEED HELP...IS THIS A BAD FOLD???

I would absolutely fold this hand in this situation. Assuming you did call the raise I would fold after seeing a raise and call.
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Old 08-20-2005, 07:07 PM
FiReSiStAnT FiReSiStAnT is offline
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that A/10 can get you into alot of trouble; however, I do consider myself a strong post flop player and would defiantly gottent ot he turn if I did decide to play this...

Probably should have called...
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Old 08-20-2005, 07:23 PM
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that A/10 can get you into alot of trouble; however, I do consider myself a strong post flop player and would defiantly gottent ot he turn if I did decide to play this...

Probably should have called...

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Playing ATo in the SB on an A high flop in a raised pot is extremely difficult to play correctly, especially w/short stacks.
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Old 08-20-2005, 07:25 PM
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Default Re: I NEED HELP...IS THIS A BAD FOLD???

I don't think you need any help...
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Old 08-20-2005, 07:26 PM
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Okay Second level of a 5 dollar
buy in single table SNG on Poker Stars....This A/T Ends up Winning but tell me if its a bad fold and what my line should have been if I did call preflop raises....thanks for the help...


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (7 handed) converter

BB (t2970)
UTG (t1330)
MP1 (t2920)
MP2 (t1520)
CO (t1420)
Button (t1530)
Hero (t1810)

Preflop: Hero is SB with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls t30, MP1 calls t30, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls t30, Button calls t30, Hero completes, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to t90</font>, UTG calls t60, MP1 calls t60, CO calls t60, Button calls t60, Hero folds.

Flop: (t480) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG checks, MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets t120</font>, Button calls t120, BB folds, UTG calls t120, MP1 folds.

Turn: (t840) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG checks, CO checks, Button checks.

River: (t840) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG checks, CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets t120</font>, UTG folds, CO calls t120.

Final Pot: t1080

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I think you're being results oriented. Good fold.
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