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Old 08-20-2005, 03:17 AM
Newt_Buggs Newt_Buggs is offline
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Default UTG mini raise ($109)

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (6 handed) converter

SB (t1500)
BB (t2420)
UTG (t2170)
MP (t940)
Hero (t1940)
Button (t1030)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to t400</font>, 1 fold, Hero?

no reads
I have a follow up question once we hear some responses
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Old 08-20-2005, 03:29 AM
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Default Re: UTG mini raise ($109)

I push, but I'm not excited about it.
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Old 08-20-2005, 03:33 AM
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Default Re: UTG mini raise ($109)

yeah i mean its pretty EV neutral this hand against standard player and big stacks are cool.
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Old 08-20-2005, 03:33 AM
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Default Re: UTG mini raise ($109)

Even if you're 8-tabling, you should probably have a read on UTG by now on whether he likes the mini-raise. It's very read-dependent what you do here (whether the MR means "I have a hand I'm playing," or whether alarm bells should be going off in your head).
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Old 08-20-2005, 03:39 AM
Newt_Buggs Newt_Buggs is offline
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Default Re: UTG mini raise ($109)

sorry, I should have included that UTG has not miniraised yet (that I've noticed)

in my experience a mini raise in this spot tends to be "I don't want to invest much with this hand" although obviously sometimes its AA/KK.
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Old 08-20-2005, 03:52 AM
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Default Re: UTG mini raise ($109)

[ QUOTE ]
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (6 handed) converter

SB (t1500)
BB (t2420)
UTG (t2170)
MP (t940)
Hero (t1940)
Button (t1030)

[/ QUOTE ]

That's tougher if you haven't noticed him mini-raise yet, because you're in a pretty good position where it's not great to put your remaining 8.7 BB on the line completely here. I don't think pushing is that bad, but I'd feel a whole lot better about it against a semi-frequent to frequent mini-raiser.

If you only had like 1400 chips (1200 remaining after the BB post), then you still have some FE to possibly win 700 chips w/o a showdown, plus you're more likely to have to get your chips in in a marginal spot if you fold, so then it'd be better to make a play on this hand (IMO at least).
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Old 08-20-2005, 04:20 AM
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Default Re: UTG mini raise ($109)

[ QUOTE ]
sorry, I should have included that UTG has not miniraised yet (that I've noticed)

in my experience a mini raise in this spot tends to be "I don't want to invest much with this hand" although obviously sometimes its AA/KK.

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Has he been raising at all? (I usually don't notice either)

I still feel comfortable enough to push against a min raiser here, but you know me and big stacks.
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Old 08-20-2005, 06:46 PM
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Default Re: UTG mini raise ($109)

I pushed and he folded. I still think that its very close though.

To those who say push: would you push 55 here? (or in gramps case where you would push if one thing was different, such as having 1400 chips, would you push 55 here?)
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Old 08-20-2005, 06:54 PM
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Default Re: UTG mini raise ($109)

I think its super tight...99 I'd probably repush but it might be my cutoff here
55-88 is even closer...I could probably play the hand either way given no reads
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