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Old 08-18-2005, 02:09 PM
joao_,martins joao_,martins is offline
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Default TPTK 4-handed

Pokerstars sit-n-go. 4 handed. Ive got 2400, blinds 100/200.
I am Button with A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]- J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG folds and I just limp. I did that because BB would 75 percent of the time raise me if I just limped from the button. So I decided to play it tricky and hopefully re-raise it all if he raises.
Well, SB folds and BB checks... so my plan was already not working well.
FLOP: J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]- 10 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]- 4 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
BB checks and I bet 400. He check raises me to 1200.
Now, I have been doing a lot of position flop steals, but mostly never when he is in the hand... since he is very aggresive.
Now, I go through the range of hands and i put him on either 10-4, J-10, J-4 or a total bluff.
What do you guys put him on, and can I get away from this hand?
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Old 08-18-2005, 02:13 PM
tigerite tigerite is offline
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Default Re: TPTK 4-handed

Seriously, AJs isn't really good enough to be 'trapping' with. I'd just push preflop in the first place, and I'd push the flop here after his raise.

I put him on Tx, Jx (but not two pair), KQ, 98, something like that. You have him beat most times here, I believe.
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Old 08-18-2005, 02:17 PM
Rosencrantz1 Rosencrantz1 is offline
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Default Re: TPTK 4-handed

It would really help to know the other stack sizes. Thx.
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Old 08-18-2005, 02:19 PM
YourFoxyGrandma YourFoxyGrandma is offline
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Default Re: TPTK 4-handed

4 handed, the other stack sizes matter tremendously.
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Old 08-18-2005, 02:25 PM
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Default Re: TPTK 4-handed

Stack sizes matter, but I'd venture given the description you're ahead most of the time here. If he did outflop you, a good % of the time he'd probably wait til the Turn to make a play. Plus, it sounds like this guy loves to make plays at people, and after the sequence of events, the C/R screams resteal. And of the times he has two pair, you still have redraws. From a chip EV standpoint at least, come back over the top. He'll be drawing to 3-5 outs a bunch of the time, and there's lots o' chips in the pot.

From a $EV standpoint...stack sizes matter.
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Old 08-18-2005, 02:25 PM
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Default Re: TPTK 4-handed

I have t2400.
BB has t3700.
UTG is the only one reasonably short-stacked and is clearly playing to place.
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Old 08-18-2005, 02:28 PM
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Default Re: TPTK 4-handed

Hmm, this makes pushing preflop a little less palatable. What about SB?
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Old 08-18-2005, 02:32 PM
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Default Re: TPTK 4-handed

SB is chipleader with 5100.
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Old 08-18-2005, 02:40 PM
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Default Re: TPTK 4-handed

I'm guessing then that UTG is at around 1400. Well, ok, I don't hate the limp so much now, and I maybe wouldn't push here. I'd prefer to raise unless your opponents were clever and knew that coming over the top would make you fold. (Which you probably should by ICM) But if you got to that flop, I would be getting all my chips in the middle after his raise, for the reasons Gramps stated.
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