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Old 08-12-2005, 07:56 PM
liucipher liucipher is offline
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Default $11: AKo in BB w/ ~10xBB

NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee
Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 3: shilts1982 ( $2750 )
Seat 4: francwa ( $578 )
Seat 5: MJWATL ( $845 )
Seat 6: Hero ( $990 )
Seat 8: Oliver19 ( $2837 )

Trny:14780904 Level:4
Blinds(50/100)

** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ]

Oliver19 folds.
shilts1982 is all-In [2750]
francwa folds.
MJWATL folds.
Hero?

Villain had overraised twice, the second time showing down with TT.

I'll be left w/ ~9xBB 5-handed if I fold, so not desperate but not happy.

How weak a fold is this?
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Old 08-12-2005, 08:37 PM
lastchance lastchance is offline
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Default Re: $11: AKo in BB w/ ~10xBB

Well, Villain has AJ+, 77+ at the very least. Hero's about a coinflip against that range, which might be a fold, though I probably think Villain's pushing a bit more than that.

I can't fold here without a decent read that Villain isn't pushing A9 or something.
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Old 08-12-2005, 08:59 PM
Rootabager Rootabager is offline
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Default Re: $11: AKo in BB w/ ~10xBB

call. you have a big hand. He does not even have to have a hand. he is raising into the short stacks. I do this with 56. I wouldnt even exepct a coinflip most of the time.
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Old 08-12-2005, 09:24 PM
Freudian Freudian is offline
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Default Re: $11: AKo in BB w/ ~10xBB

Do you think villain would push 27xBB with AA/KK? If not, then you removed the two hands that you really hate to play against from his range.

That makes this call very easy for me.
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Old 08-12-2005, 09:27 PM
lastchance lastchance is offline
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Default Re: $11: AKo in BB w/ ~10xBB

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Do you think villain would push 27xBB with AA/KK? If not, then you removed the two hands that you really hate to play against from his range.

That makes this call very easy for me.

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Look at the stacks behind villain. He's not pushing 27x BB. He's pushing 10x.

Though in the $11's, it's easy to see an odd limp with AA.
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Old 08-12-2005, 09:31 PM
Freudian Freudian is offline
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Default Re: $11: AKo in BB w/ ~10xBB

I have never seen anyone raise more than 3xBB when they have Aces or Kings in level 4 on Party. It is possible that it happens at higher limits where second level thinking becomes a factor but at lower limits you can pretty much eliminate AA/KK here.
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Old 08-12-2005, 09:34 PM
liucipher liucipher is offline
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Default Re: $11: AKo in BB w/ ~10xBB

Agreed. My gut told me I was probably against a mid-pocket pair given his past raise. Question was whether flipping a coin was necessary given the situation.

Rootabagger brings up a good point that, because I'm not certain and he'll be bluffing a chunk of the time, it pushes the coinflip in my favor.
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Old 08-13-2005, 12:27 AM
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Default Re: $11: AKo in BB w/ ~10xBB

Looks like a pure steal with a big stack. With the amount of chips you have I don't think twice before calling and getting my chips in with a coinflip at the very worst
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Old 08-13-2005, 12:36 AM
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Default Re: $11: AKo in BB w/ ~10xBB

I call pretty quickly.
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