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Old 08-08-2005, 09:17 AM
Sabrazack Sabrazack is offline
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Default Should hero call?

Im unsure what to do in a situation like this one.

NL Texas Hold'em $20 Buy-in + $2 Entry Fee
Level:5 Blinds(75/150) - Monday, August 08, 08:43:15 EDT 2005
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 8
Seat 7: Gerpolean ( $640 )
Seat 4: HERO ( $630 )
Seat 6: ASaltySalute ( $1405 )
Seat 3: advisor6 ( $705 )
Seat 2: DontCare222 ( $1450 )
Seat 10: stackhouse00 ( $1550 )
Seat 5: Man_E_Fresh ( $470 )
Seat 8: KR111 ( $1150 )
Trny:14652688 Level:5
Blinds(75/150)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ 4h 9c ]
Man_E_Fresh is all-In [470]
ASaltySalute folds.
Gerpolean folds.
KR111 folds.
stackhouse00 folds.
DontCare222 folds.
advisor6 folds.
HERO calls or folds?
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Old 08-08-2005, 09:23 AM
tigerite tigerite is offline
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Default Re: Should hero call?

This is a horrible spot. Ugh, you're down to 3bb and literally no fold equity, but this hand is awful. I think because your chance of $EV is so low in this case anyway, you should call because of the +chipEV argument but, man, it's not good.
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Old 08-08-2005, 09:28 AM
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Default Re: Should hero call?

Fold, even against a random hand you don't have odds to call.
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Old 08-08-2005, 09:31 AM
45suited 45suited is offline
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Default Re: Should hero call?

Even though you're getting over 2:1, I fold here.

You're a big underdog here (even with UTG's looser pushing standards) and losing totally cripples you. If you fold, IMO, you still have enough chips to realistically come back in this game. I think you're better off folding here.
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Old 08-08-2005, 09:33 AM
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Default Re: Should hero call?

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Fold, even against a random hand you don't have odds to call.

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This is incorrect. He has the odds to call vs. a random hand, but there are other considerations that make this a fold, IMO.
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Old 08-08-2005, 09:35 AM
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Default Re: Should hero call?

I thought it was close against a random hand but slightly negative.
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Old 08-08-2005, 09:35 AM
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Default Re: Should hero call?

any read on shorty? has he been inactive/quiet?

If he has seemingly been trying to find an opportunity to nut-peddle.. this makes it a trivial fold.

Without reads, Its probably a fold still, although its close.
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Old 08-08-2005, 09:38 AM
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Default Re: Should hero call?

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I thought it was close against a random hand but slightly negative.

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94o is 40.6 % vs a random hand and he would be getting over 2:1 to call. But I still fold here. I could be wrong about folding though.
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Old 08-08-2005, 09:51 AM
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Default Re: Should hero call?

He calls. Pot = 1,165; Win % = 38.09 Tie % = 2.59

1165 x 38.09% = 444
1165 x 2.59/2 = 15

So it's slightly negative unless I have the pot wrong.

I would fold this even if it was slightly positive against a random hand because I wouldn't think he would push any 2.
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