Going broke in an unraised pot

durron597 · #1 08-07-2005, 06:00 PM

Early so no read. Stars $16 turbo. Please leave the fold preflop comments out of here, because I won't change that part of my game. However, suggestions to raise are acceptable, and any other comments are appreciated.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (9 handed) converter

MP3 (t1400)
CO (t1490)
Button (t1470)
SB (t1420)
BB (t1400)
UTG (t1500)
Hero (t1180)
MP1 (t1500)
MP2 (t2140)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
1 fold, Hero calls t20, MP1 calls t20, MP2 calls t20, MP3 calls t20, 1 fold, Button calls t20, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t140) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (7 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets t150, MP1 folds, MP2 calls t150, MP3 folds, Button raises to t1450, SB folds, BB folds, Hero calls t1010 (All-In), MP2 folds.

Turn: (t2900) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: (t2900) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: t2900

octaveshift · #2 08-07-2005, 06:06 PM

Standard for me at lower levels. I would probably drop this in a 109.

TPTK no g00t.

tigerite · #3 08-07-2005, 06:08 PM

Button has a drawing hand, probably T [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. Whether you call or not depends on if you want to gamble he doesn't hit one of his 14-15 outs.

gumpzilla · #4 08-07-2005, 06:19 PM

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Button has a drawing hand, probably T [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].

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I think K high flush draws and sets can do this as well. Given that this was posted, I'm guessing he ran into 88.

tigerite · #5 08-07-2005, 06:20 PM

Yeah - true. Could be K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] or something similar, too. I can't see him being ahead of much with AJ here, at least, not by a lot if at all.

durron597 · #6 08-07-2005, 06:21 PM

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I think K high flush draws and sets can do this as well. Given that this was posted, I'm guessing he ran into 88.

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Actually, I post hands that I play correctly and/or win if I only think I played them wrong.

durron597 · #7 08-07-2005, 07:26 PM

I posted this hand mostly because I almost puked before calling. He had QJo and MHIG. Should this be an easy call?

wuwei · #8 08-07-2005, 07:37 PM

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I posted this hand mostly because I almost puked before calling. He had QJo and MHIG. Should this be an easy call?

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I wouldn't say easy, but when I was playing the $22s at Party I made this call every time. I'm pretty confident they were profitable. The big overbet is usually a pair you're ahead of or a draw.

durron597 · #9 08-07-2005, 10:01 PM

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I wouldn't say easy, but when I was playing the $22s at Party I made this call every time. I'm pretty confident they were profitable. The big overbet is usually a pair you're ahead of or a draw.

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That's what I thought too but a decent player has me beat here, because of the caller on the flop.

wuwei · #10 08-07-2005, 10:22 PM

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I wouldn't say easy, but when I was playing the $22s at Party I made this call every time. I'm pretty confident they were profitable. The big overbet is usually a pair you're ahead of or a draw.

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That's what I thought too but a decent player has me beat here, because of the caller on the flop.

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To be honest, I totally missed the guy in between. That certainly makes things tougher. The pot is worth winning now, the field is huge, and the board is coordinated. He could be playing two pair or a set in this manner. I'm more inclined to fold now that I actually read the flop action.