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View Poll Results: Which limit should I move to?
There are some leaks. Get down to 1/2 and work on becoming profitable there. 12 17.91%
Got a little work left to do. Since you're a small winner at 2/4 you should stay put for a bit. 25 37.31%
My grandmother is half blind, she'd probably kick your ass in Go-Fish. 7 10.45%
Not good. Just bad. If you want to keep playing head to .50/1 and get a good job. 13 19.40%
Looks good, probably winning around 2bb/100. 3/6 is a safe jump. 7 10.45%
Your winrate is probably over 3bb/100, head up to 5/10. I envy your skill. 3 4.48%
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Old 08-06-2005, 01:48 PM
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Default Where do you accumulate most of your chips?

This might help my game, but other than that it is an interesting poll. After you vote, if you could post the reason for your vote that would be nice.
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Old 08-06-2005, 01:52 PM
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Default Re: Where do you accumulate most of your chips?

If anyone is not choosing "On the Bubble," then you are playing incorrectly.
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Old 08-06-2005, 01:55 PM
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Default Re: Where do you accumulate most of your chips?

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If anyone is not choosing "On the Bubble," then you are playing incorrectly.

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Or is a better level 4-5 player than most others here.
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Old 08-06-2005, 01:56 PM
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Default Re: Where do you accumulate most of your chips?

when or how you accumulate all of the chips is not as important as if you accumulate all of the chips. to go out and say to your self that this is when im going to accumulate would be selling yourself short, as sometimes there are oppertunities early and sometimes there are oppertunities late. a good player will be able to adapt to the situation at hand. i have had tournaments where i got big early and dominated the entire sng, and likewise, i have had tourneys where i struggle to get 4 handed, but win a few hands when the blinds are big, and then take it down once it gets heads up.
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Old 08-06-2005, 01:57 PM
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Default Re: Where do you accumulate most of your chips?

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If anyone is not choosing "On the Bubble," then you are playing incorrectly.

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this is exactly the close minded attitude that i used to have that was costing me money.
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Old 08-06-2005, 02:05 PM
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Default Re: Where do you accumulate most of your chips?

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when or how you accumulate all of the chips is not as important as if you accumulate all of the chips. to go out and say to your self that this is when im going to accumulate would be selling yourself short, as sometimes there are oppertunities early and sometimes there are oppertunities late. a good player will be able to adapt to the situation at hand. i have had tournaments where i got big early and dominated the entire sng, and likewise, i have had tourneys where i struggle to get 4 handed, but win a few hands when the blinds are big, and then take it down once it gets heads up.

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Regardless, on average, you will accumulate more chips late stealing blinds than you will picking up hands in the early levels. It's not close-minded, it's true.
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Old 08-06-2005, 02:10 PM
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Default Re: Where do you accumulate most of your chips?

Can I vote for ITM?

According to Pokertracker over my bad run of 174 SNGs this month:
7-10: +523 Chips
5-6: +8,905 Chips
4: -25,778 Chips [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]
ITM: +42,350 Chips


Over all my numbers look like this over 561 109s:
7-10: +74,441
5-6: +6,063
Bubble: -13,108
ITM: +144,604


So I guess of the choices I would have to say from a strict numbers standpoint 7-10. (Yeah I clicked on bubble before I actually thought about it !!!)

I know people want to think the bubble is right but the fact is you lose all your chips on the bubble much more often than you double up.
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Old 08-06-2005, 02:33 PM
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Default Re: Where do you accumulate most of your chips?

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when or how you accumulate all of the chips is not as important as if you accumulate all of the chips. to go out and say to your self that this is when im going to accumulate would be selling yourself short, as sometimes there are oppertunities early and sometimes there are oppertunities late. a good player will be able to adapt to the situation at hand. i have had tournaments where i got big early and dominated the entire sng, and likewise, i have had tourneys where i struggle to get 4 handed, but win a few hands when the blinds are big, and then take it down once it gets heads up.

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ITM is correct (as Nottom stated below). Not given that choice, the bubble may not be YOUR correct answer, but if it is not, I dont see you winning SNGs as much or more than a player who accumlates more chips as time goes on. In order for your answer to be true, you have to be either:

1. On an incredible run getting great hands PF or

2. Getting all-in in close situations early and winning more than you should be.

In either case, that can't last

I don't care how good one's post flop skills are, there is simply no way it can surpass bubble blind stealing and getting all in with the best of it when the blinds are high relative to the stacks.

Im not trying to say that there is only one correct way to play, it just seems from experience that chip accumulation MUST occur more as t gets greater.
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Old 08-06-2005, 02:36 PM
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Default Re: Where do you accumulate most of your chips?

that all depends on how you play in the early levels
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Old 08-06-2005, 02:40 PM
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Default Re: Where do you accumulate most of your chips?

hmmm, by who's definition. I've played thousands of them, my ROI is in the good to expert range, and I didn't pick your answer.

Steve
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