Another Bubble Hand

[sturips]

Whats the play here Push or Fold - villain has been raising like this for last three hands and stealing succesfully.

game is a 33

200/400 Tourney Texas Hold'em Game Table (NL) (Tournament 14573827) - Fri Aug 05 18:46:19 EDT 2005
Table Table 12981 (Real Money) -- Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 1: EnglishJim (1320)
Seat 4: Stu_22 (2180)
Seat 6: rewarren (1125)
Seat 8: yossarian92 (3375)
Stu_22 posts small blind (100)
rewarren posts big blind (200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Stu_22 [ Th, Td ]
yossarian92 raises (500) to 500
EnglishJim folds.

Stu -??

[bmxreed36]

I would push.

[lastchance]

Shove it.

Might mean AA or KK because Villain didn't push. Villain probably should have instead of raising t500, IMHO, but you're not getting away from TT with FE here.

[sturips]

Thanks for that, needed some reassurance that I made the correct play here, pushed it right back to get creamed with AA - well done LC.

What other info did you gather from him throughout the game? Was he aggressive overall? What did he do with other monster hands?

[brettthomas]

IMHO I'm surprised this isn't a fold: You have no fold equity at this point - Essentially you are calling a bigger stack on the bubble (with smaller stacks in significantly worse shape) and you're most likely in a coin flip. Please explain what i'm missing. thanks.

[brettthomas]

OK. i misread the raise (thought it was too 900). so there is fold equity if he believes you have an overpair (he's still getting just shy of 2:1, i think).

[lastchance]

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OK. i misread the raise (thought it was too 900). so there is fold equity if he believes you have an overpair (he's still getting just shy of 2:1, i think).

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It doesn't matter if he believes you have an overpair. He doesn't know you don't have QQ, KK, or AA, and he can't know that, because you're doing the same with those hands. There are a lot of hands that raise to t500 as big stack but fold to a push from second biggest stack with a reasonably tight range.

It might be right to fold here, or just call, but I don't see it, without a read.

[Nottom]

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IMHO I'm surprised this isn't a fold: You have no fold equity at this point - Essentially you are calling a bigger stack on the bubble (with smaller stacks in significantly worse shape) and you're most likely in a coin flip. Please explain what i'm missing. thanks.

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... villain has been raising like this for last three hands and stealing succesfully.

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Hero has plenty of folding equity here. Even if not, TT stands to to match up quite well against the Villian's range if he has been doing this a lot.

[brettthomas]

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... villain has been raising like this for last three hands and stealing succesfully.

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Hero has plenty of folding equity here. Even if not, TT stands to to match up quite well against the Villian's range if he has been doing this a lot.

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OK. I see. Thanks to both repliers