A dumb play and a missed opportunity maybe

Hey All,
Should I re-raise this. I think maybe I should have put in 100 on the flop,and fold if re-raised.I also think I should've re-raised to like 120ish pf. Anyone think I should've pushed? I don't,but was just wondering [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] I only post this hand because it was the first hand of the tourney,and the raiser could've been a maniac or something.

#Game No : 2479487073
***** Hand History for Game 2479487073 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:14554111 Level:1 Blinds(10/15) - Thursday, August 04, 22:47:48 EDT 2005
Table Table 12111 (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 2: jhiggs17 ( $800 )
Seat 4: cacheflow26 ( $800 )
Seat 5: Qunofhrtz ( $800 )
Seat 6: Snelliest ( $800 )
Seat 10: Lbeers ( $800 )
Seat 7: ckphoto ( $800 )
Seat 9: jwag1re ( $800 )
Seat 8: johndogg9 ( $800 )
Seat 3: HERO( $800 )
Seat 1: calderone39 ( $800 )
Trny:14554111 Level:1
Blinds(10/15)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ Kd Ah ]
Qunofhrtz calls [15].
Snelliest folds.
ckphoto raises [75].
johndogg9 folds.
jwag1re folds.
Lbeers folds.
calderone39 folds.
jhiggs17 folds.
Your time bank will become active in less than 20 seconds. If you do not want it to be used, please act now.
HERO calls [65].
cacheflow26 folds.
Qunofhrtz folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ Qh, 8c, 2h ]
Your time bank will become active in less than 20 seconds. If you do not want it to be used, please act now.
HERO checks.
ckphoto bets [95].
HERO folds.
ckphoto does not show cards.
ckphoto wins 275 chips
Game #2479500819 starts.



And my flirtation with disaster. I sort of got sucked into this hand.

#Game No : 2479655506
***** Hand History for Game 2479655506 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:14554111 Level:3 Blinds(25/50) - Thursday, August 04, 23:13:38 EDT 2005
Table Table 12111 (Real Money)
Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 4: cacheflow26 ( $1275 )
Seat 5: Qunofhrtz ( $1170 )
Seat 7: ckphoto ( $2545 )
Seat 9: jwag1re ( $715 )
Seat 8: johndogg9 ( $1725 )
Seat 3: HERO ( $570 )
Trny:14554111 Level:3
Blinds(25/50)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ Ts Ah ]
Qunofhrtz folds.
ckphoto folds.
johndogg9 folds.
jwag1re folds.
HERO calls [25].
cacheflow26 checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ Th, 6d, 8d ]
Your time bank will become active in less than 20 seconds. If you do not want it to be used, please act now.
HERO bets [50].
cacheflow26 calls [50].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 6h ]
HERO bets [50].
cacheflow26 raises [175].
HERO is all-In [420]

I completed because I liked the price for the hand. I don't think that was a mistake. I think my mistake was only betting 50 on the flop,should've been 100?? [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]
I wen't all in because I felt there was too much in the middle considering my dwindling stack, and I decided to gamble. If he had the 6, I was screwed, and if he didn't have the 6,he'd probably fold. Was this completely terrible, or just partially terrible?? [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Thanks for your help.
Shooby

[xLukex]

Hand 1 is fine. Do not get too aggressive with AK in the early levels, especially when you don't hit the flop at all.

Hand 2 I think you may get some different ideas with the preflop play, and I'm not sure a worse hand like KT or QT will call your all-in...

[Weatherhead03]

Hand 1 I would have reraised to about 150 and folded to a push.

Hand 2 Push the flop.

[xLukex]

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Hand 1 I would have reraised to about 150 and folded to a push.

Hand 2 Push the flop.

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I greatly disagree with both of these.

First of all, reraising AK is no good when you're out of position. The best you can do on a missed flop is fold to a bet or try to steal the pot yourself....that is if you had position. I really don't like reraising here.

Hand 2, why the hell would you put all your chips into a T100 pot? I must be missing something here.

[Weatherhead03]

After relooking Hand 1 I agree with you that OOP dont reraise the AK. If in position though I would definately reraise it but thats just me. Hand 2 you have to realize that that you have really 3 options underbet which he did and I would never do with TPTK on a flush draw and straight draw board. Second you can bet the pot which can be a good option or push and at the 10+1 you will get called by flush draws straight draws and K10. Thats just my opinion though.

[xLukex]

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After relooking Hand 1 I agree with you that OOP dont reraise the AK. If in position though I would definately reraise it but thats just me. Hand 2 you have to realize that that you have really 3 options underbet which he did and I would never do with TPTK on a flush draw and straight draw board. Second you can bet the pot which can be a good option or push and at the 10+1 you will get called by flush draws straight draws and K10. Thats just my opinion though.

[/ QUOTE ]

But what about the better hands? They're also going to call an all-in...

I think the best route is betting the pot and gaining information from villain.

[nWirb]

First hand:
I call the original raise and bet out 120 on the flop and check/fold from there unless I improve (unless you are geting the right price ofc).

Second hand:
I bet 80-90 on the flop, and push the turn.
Seeing how you only bet 50 on the flop and turn I would also push to his turn reraise.

[freemoney]

i am constantly amazed at how bad the play is, in hand 2 you have [censored] TPTK heads up and are shortstacked you want to get all in here, saying dumb [censored] like you are potting it to gain information makes no sense. what information do u gain if he calls or pushes? that he has 2 cards that do ok with that board??

[curtains]

In hand 1 I am fine with flat calling.

In hand 2 it's very clear that you should move allin preflop. Calling is just terrible, your hand is too strong headsup and the blinds mean quite a bit to you. Calling is a very very clear mistake. You need to be more aggressive when shortstacked and headsup with a very good hand.

[tigerite]

I'm glad someone else noticed this as I was about to post the same (about hand 2). You have 11bb's behind, shove it.