chip passing

[Mr. D]

I've been hearing alot about how there is an underground chip trade for big tournaments and that players take chips out of tournies and sneak them into other ones. So I'm watching WPT tonight and there is a clip of Phil Laak rolling on the ground because of some hand he won and you can clearly see a black chip fall out of his sweatshirt pocket. Anyone notice that?

Am I completely paraniod?

[ericshaw]

wouldn't they notice that not all the chips added up to the total starting chips? i don't know. i agree with you though i always wondered with how easy it would be to pass off chips.

[sekrah]

I think the risk/reward is idiotic, for a professional to try something so stupid to sneak a chip or two more into their stack that would be equivelant of about 1/100th of their stack.

[37offsuit]

Is it possible he had a black chip from the casino for ring games before/after the tourney?

[SossMan]

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I think the risk/reward is idiotic, for a professional to try something so stupid to sneak a chip or two more into their stack that would be equivelant of about 1/100th of their stack.

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it's not that idiotic. Many casinos use the same tourney chips no matter what the buy-in. If you have the same chips being used for a $25 weekly and a $1,000 major, you don't think that there are some people taking chips off their stack late from one of the weekly's and using them in the $1k?

If you are at the final table of the small tourney, you might have, say 100k in chips. If you took 5 1k chips off, it wouldn't have much affect on your outcome in that tourney.

If you added 5k in chips to your stack early in the $1k tourney, however, that would greatly increase your equity in that touney.

I, of course, am not advocating it, but I can gaurantee you that this happens all the time.

[sekrah]

I could see a chump doing this.. Like Ellix Powers or some nonamed somebody.

But I'd be stunned if someone like Phil Laak would try something like this.

[SossMan]

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I could see a chump doing this.. Like Ellix Powers or some nonamed somebody.

But I'd be stunned if someone like Phil Laak would try something like this.

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oh, I'm not implicating anyone. I'm just saying that it is, and will continue to be a major problem with no easy solution.

[AceHiStation]

I hate to link to an ESPN poker article like this... but thought you guys might enjoy it

Phoney chips at WSOP

Later,
-Ace

[ZootMurph]

When they chip up, it changes the total amount of chips in play. Not by a lot, but there is a difference.

[SossMan]

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When they chip up, it changes the total amount of chips in play. Not by a lot, but there is a difference.

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also, unless you catch someone redhanded, it's impossible to prove who palmed chips, only that it happened.