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I'm essentially a good low stakes NL player who wants to move up to the big games some day. Not yet, as I still have a decent amount of learning to do.
Is it me, or are these VERY easy folds for the guys who ended up calling/pushing in both situations? Is this normal for this game? Hand 1: ***** Hand History for Game 2464075303 ***** $2000 NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, August 02, 01:54:36 EDT 2005 Table Table 55263 (No DP) (Real Money) Seat 6 is the button Total number of players : 10 Seat 1: CheesePleze ( $2403 ) Seat 2: CaptainCdn ( $5907 ) Seat 3: tdr101poker ( $1697 ) Seat 4: Litlebstrd ( $2687 ) Seat 5: KingAce228 ( $7579 ) Seat 6: H82rungood ( $3294 ) Seat 7: dbw99 ( $2157 ) Seat 8: MyEmpyre ( $2000 ) Seat 9: AliKings ( $1980 ) Seat 10: eufor1a ( $3193.50 ) dbw99 posts small blind [$10]. MyEmpyre posts big blind [$20]. ** Dealing down cards ** UTG calls [$20]. UTG+1 raises [$100]. CheesePleze folds. CaptainCdn folds. tdr101poker folds. Litlebstrd folds. Button calls [$100]. H82rungood folds. dbw99 folds. SB calls [$80]. UTG calls [$80]. ** Dealing Flop ** [ 7s, 3d, Tc ] SB checks. UTG bets [$200]. UTG+1 raises [$600]. BTN raises [$1000]. SB calls [$1000]. UTG folds. UTG+1 is all-In [$2493.50] BTN folds. SB is all-In [$900] ** Dealing Turn ** [ Qh ] ** Dealing River ** [ Kc ] SB shows [ 7h, 7c ] three of a kind, sevens. UTG+1 shows [ Jh, Jd ] a pair of jacks. XXXXXX wins $1193.50 from side pot #1 with a pair of jacks. XXXXXX wins $5407 from the main pot with three of a kind, sevens. Are people not capable of folding overpairs in this game with 3 people betting like crazy on a raggedy flop? Hand #2 Villian and other dude are both 120BB deep. Villian opens 4xBB from MP, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, Btn calls, SB reraises to 500$ (25BB), Villian pushes all in so fast I couldn't believe it, and SB calls with A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]?!?!!?!?! Is there something I'm missing? |
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Is there something I'm missing? [/ QUOTE ] the fact that bigger games play much more aggressively. fim |
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Those are both easy folds at small stakes. I can't speak for the 10/20 exactly, but higher-stake games are much more aggressive. Testing the raiser with complete air is incredibly common.
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I've made both of those calls many times.
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I was the person with JJ in this hand, and although I should have been much more worried about the SB's cold call than I was, it was fairly clear both the original bettor and the guy who made it 1000 (who is one of my favorite fish in this game) had nothing. Perhaps I was slightly steaming when I pushed, but the game was going fairly nuts at the time and an overpair seemed like a good spot to get my money in against a couple tards.
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without any reads on villains in the two hands I think its impossible to say if any of the plays was wrong or not
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I should have been much more worried about the SB's cold call than I was [/ QUOTE ]YA THINK? the guy hasnt put a chip in postflop, and he calls a bet and two effing raises cold! and diablo, get outta here! you are putting your money in there after SB calls threebets cold on this board? obviously this is a good flop for JJ, but its pretty obvious SB has the nutd in this spot. |
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Downstem is right.... the one raiser in that hand was a complete maniac. He was up 4 buy-ins at one point, so I couldn't decide if he was actually very good, or just extremely lucky; but definitely borderline maniac.
I didn't see much out of the guy that pushed all in with KK preflop, other than he definitely had not been out of line yet. |
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and diablo, get outta here! you are putting your money in there after SB calls threebets cold on this board? obviously this is a good flop for JJ, but its pretty obvious SB has the nutd in this spot. [/ QUOTE ] Have I folded here a lot as well? Yes. However, as I said initially, there are many times when I'll happily stick my chips in the middle in these games in spots like these. |
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the game was going fairly nuts at the time and an overpair seemed like a good spot to get my money in against a couple tards. [/ QUOTE ] If your description is accurate, I really think it's fine sticking the money in. |
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