Turn bet puts me in a weird spot

baronzeus · #1 08-01-2005, 11:48 PM

And I can't win by checking.

Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
1 fold, MP calls, 2 folds, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (3 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, MP calls, SB calls.

Turn: (3 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, MP calls, SB folds.

River: (5 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
Hero ????

adamstewart · #2 08-02-2005, 12:04 AM

I don't think betting the turn here is profitable.

Adam

baronzeus · #3 08-02-2005, 12:06 AM

I agree but where does that leave me on the river

adamstewart · #4 08-02-2005, 12:08 AM

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I agree but where does that leave me on the river

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with no obligation to bet - easy check/fold as the pot would either be smaller (or the guy left behind you has taken control on the turn, meaning you're behind).

What I'm trying to say is this:

You bet and got called in two places with this rainbow board.

The pot is SMALL on the turn.

Check the turn with only one person left behind, and hope for the free card. If not, and MP bets behind you ...

(i) If SB calls, you have odds to call your draw
(ii) If SB folds, you don't have the pot odds to call, but counting implied odds, you probably have a neutral EV decision to call or fold.

Best case scenario is that you get your free card on the turn in this small pot.

Adam

baronzeus · #5 08-02-2005, 12:09 AM

I mean what do I do HERE.

*sigh* nevermind whatever

adamstewart · #6 08-02-2005, 12:14 AM

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I mean what do I do HERE.

*sigh* nevermind whatever

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The way this hand played out ... it's tough.. and that usually means that it's close to neutral EV no matter what you do.

There's a big part of me that says you take this pot down more than 1 in 6 by betting. So bet. But it's close.

Adam

weevil · #7 08-02-2005, 12:52 AM

You're not going to win this 1/5 times.

adamstewart · #8 08-02-2005, 08:13 AM

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You're not going to win this 1/5 times.

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What about 1 in 6 times, though?

Adam

Lmn55d · #9 08-02-2005, 01:58 PM

check the turn. Playing it like you did, I think a river bet is profitable.