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08-01-2005, 06:20 PM
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flopped a set of jacks, but the turn is ugly ($33)
This is one of the first hands, but UTG has already shown serious signs of donkitude: holding up play all the time, super-fishy, incoherent chat, and showing hands for no reason.
Party Poker $30+3 No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (10 handed) converter MP3 (t695) CO (t630) Button (t1290) SB (t785) BB (t800) UTG (t720) Hero (t800) UTG+2 (t770) MP1 (t740) MP2 (t770) Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to t65</font>, Hero calls t65, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls t65, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls t65, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB calls t55, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>. Flop: (t340) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font> SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets t200</font>, Hero calls t200, MP1 folds, CO calls t200, SB folds. Turn: (t940) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets t200</font>, Hero ??? Who re-raises preflop? I prefer calling with JJ since I've got no idea what this UTG raise means. I doubt he would do this with any hand I dominate, so I'd like to see a flop before sending in a lot of chips. There's a good chance I can get him to put chips in with missed overs, and I think he'll bet if he hits. The number of callers made me a little sick... Who pushes the flop? At the time, I was thinking about all the people behind and all the hands they might be tempted to push, such as AJ, JT, AQ, or AK, where I could call with even more dead money in the pot. I decided to call. Who folds to this turn? Does anyone smooth call here to try to induce a call from CO, even though calling the 200 turn bet pot-commits him anyway? 
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#2
08-01-2005, 06:25 PM
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Re: flopped a set of jacks, but the turn is ugly ($33)
Thats not all that ugly. Push. I guess we could scare ourselves into thinking EP raise=AK but that would just be silly.
I'm fine with just calling preflop. See what the flop brings.
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#4
08-01-2005, 06:26 PM
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Re: flopped a set of jacks, but the turn is ugly ($33)
i suppose you're afraid of AK, but you're certainly ahead of CO here ... could UTG have Q9 or Q10 ... i think its a push or fold situation since calling leaves your chipstack crippled and most likely you're facing an all in bet on the river
maybe he has a set of 10s and hes trying to figure out a way to get all his money in the pot
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#7
08-01-2005, 08:23 PM
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Re: flopped a set of jacks, but the turn is ugly ($33)
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No way in hell I fold this. [/ QUOTE ] Anyway, me too. I just wanted to make sure pushing the turn as I did wasn't crazy.
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#8
08-01-2005, 08:47 PM
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Re: flopped a set of jacks, but the turn is ugly ($33)
Raise on the flop. Push the turn raise, but you've gotten yourself into an awkward position. You're guessing he doesn't have AK (which I doubt).
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#9
08-01-2005, 08:47 PM
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Re: flopped a set of jacks, but the turn is ugly ($33)
POOSH. Stop thinking about folding sets in NLHE. It's wrong. On the flop, that board is scary, and a nine or an eight may make you fold this, (doubt it). Plus, you're going to get action right now.
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#10
08-01-2005, 08:57 PM
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Re: flopped a set of jacks, but the turn is ugly ($33)
I might have pushed the flop, in part to avoid second-guessing myself on a semi-scare card, and in part because the overpair will likely call you then. The repeated bet size on the turn seems like a scared AA or KK. Poooooosh!
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