Getting all my chips in with a flush draw and great pot odds

[skierdude1000]

[STT] $5 NL 4057801-2 Holdem No Limit 20/40
[Aug 1 21:20:08] : Hand Start.
[Aug 1 21:20:08] : Seat 1 : wsr has $2,400
[Aug 1 21:20:08] : Seat 2 : thecase has $2,000
[Aug 1 21:20:08] : Seat 3 : matty16 has $2,000
[Aug 1 21:20:08] : Seat 4 : Diese has $2,000
[Aug 1 21:20:08] : Seat 5 : liran49 has $1,920
[Aug 1 21:20:08] : Seat 6 : Boogiegirl has $1,920
[Aug 1 21:20:08] : Seat 7 : spider: has $1,880
[Aug 1 21:20:08] : Seat 8 : groosalugg has $1,880
[Aug 1 21:20:08] : Seat 9 : rollerball has $2,000
[Aug 1 21:20:08] : spider: is the dealer.
[Aug 1 21:20:08] : groosalugg posted small blind.
[Aug 1 21:20:08] : rollerball posted big blind.
[Aug 1 21:20:08] : Game [2] started with 9 players.
[Aug 1 21:20:08] : Dealing Hole Cards.
[Aug 1 21:20:08] : Seat 4 : Diese has As Ks
[Aug 1 21:20:10] : wsr called 40
[Aug 1 21:20:11] : thecase folded.
[Aug 1 21:20:18] : Stakes: 20/40 Current level: 1 Next level in: 7 min.
[Aug 1 21:20:26] : matty16 has 10 seconds to respond.
[Aug 1 21:20:32] : matty16 folded.
[Aug 1 21:20:44] : Diese called 40 and raised 120
[Aug 1 21:20:43] : Stakes: 20/40 Current level: 1 Next level in: 6 min.
[Aug 1 21:20:45] : liran49 folded.
[Aug 1 21:20:46] : Boogiegirl called 160
[Aug 1 21:20:49] : spider: called 160
[Aug 1 21:20:52] : groosalugg folded.
[Aug 1 21:20:52] : rollerball folded.
[Aug 1 21:20:57] : wsr called 120
[Aug 1 21:20:57] : Dealing flop.
[Aug 1 21:20:57] : Board cards [9s 8d 6s]
[Aug 1 21:21:02] : Stakes: 20/40 Current level: 1 Next level in: 6 min.
[Aug 1 21:21:03] : wsr checked.
[Aug 1 21:21:07] : Diese checked.
[Aug 1 21:21:13] : Boogiegirl bet 640
[Aug 1 21:21:15] : spider: called 640
[Aug 1 21:21:23] : Stakes: 20/40 Current level: 1 Next level in: 6 min.
[Aug 1 21:21:24] : wsr called 640
[Aug 1 21:21:26] : Diese called 640
[Aug 1 21:21:27] : Dealing turn.
[Aug 1 21:21:27] : Board cards [9s 8d 6s Qh]
[Aug 1 21:21:29] : wsr checked.
[Aug 1 21:21:32] : Diese checked.
[Aug 1 21:21:36] : Boogiegirl bet 1,120 and is All-in
[Aug 1 21:21:38] : spider: called 1,080 and is All-in
[Aug 1 21:21:42] : Stakes: 20/40 Current level: 1 Next level in: 5 min.
[Aug 1 21:21:43] : wsr called 1,120
[Aug 1 21:21:49] : Diese called 1,120 and raised 80 and is All-in


Good or bad idea?

[tigerite]

Great pot odds.. with ONE CARD to come. You do know the odds of hitting it with ONE CARD to come, don't you? Hint: It's 4.1 to 1.

[skierdude1000]

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Great pot odds.. with ONE CARD to come. You do know the odds of hitting it with ONE CARD to come, don't you? Hint: It's 4.1 to 1.

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I called 640 into a 2620 pot on flop... that's 4.09:1

I called 1120 into a 5940 pot on turn... that's 5.3:1

[tigerite]

You're better off just pushing the flop if you want to play this hand at all, "do you see why"?

[45suited]

Horribly played. Horribly. You have to decide on the flop whether or not you're playing the hand. If so, push the flop. If not, fold.

The way that action went on the flop, I actually could have folded. But just calling? Yuck. Push or fold.

[skierdude1000]

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You're better off just pushing the flop if you want to play this hand at all, "do you see why"?

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To isolate the hand?

[tigerite]

Correct. It's all very well having odds to play a draw, but it doesn't do you a whole lot of good if you lose all your chips.

You're broke - you're done.

[tigerite]

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You're better off just pushing the flop if you want to play this hand at all, "do you see why"?

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To isolate the hand?

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Well that and because it gets you the best chance of hitting your card by the river, as you have better odds from two cards than just one. You should not be going broke on draws in tournaments, because once your chips are gone, they're gone, and you can't get 'em back. By the way some of your flush outs may also be compromised if someone has a set because they will pair the board.