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Old 08-01-2005, 05:05 PM
bds bds is offline
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Default 10/20, betting a scary river and then calling a river raise

There have been threads recently that dealt with 2 concepts. One is to keep betting even if a scare card comes (a card that makes a flush, etc). The other was a post responding to the question when should you fold to a river raise in 10/20, and the answer given was Never. I just played this hand and thought it illustrated both points well. Villan in the hand is 31/20 with aggression factors of 2 on the flop, 3 on the turn and 3 on the river.

I've purposely left the results in this particular post.
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Preflop: Hero is SB with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB calls.

Flop: (4 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls.

Turn: (3 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls.

River: (5 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 9 BB

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Hero has Ts Ah (full house, aces full of tens).
BB has Ks 9h (one pair, aces).
Outcome: Hero wins 9 BB. </font>
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Old 08-01-2005, 05:09 PM
ISF ISF is offline
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Default Re: 10/20, betting a scary river and then calling a river raise

I assume you posted the wrong hand? If not then I cant see not threebeting this river.
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Old 08-01-2005, 05:12 PM
DMBFan23 DMBFan23 is offline
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Default Re: 10/20, betting a scary river and then calling a river raise

dude you have a boat
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Old 08-01-2005, 05:21 PM
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Default Re: 10/20, betting a scary river and then calling a river raise

I think this hand demonstrates how to be weak tight vs. a tricky aggressive player when you have a great hand. What hand are you afraid of? QQ, and AQ will both 3-bet you PF if they truly are an aggressive TAG. If not preflop, then surely by the flop or turn you'd hear something. I think you'll see Kd 10 times for every time you see one of the two hands that beat you (yes I know the straight flush possibility, but I'm not going to even count it in this scenario).
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Old 08-01-2005, 05:23 PM
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Default Re: 10/20, betting a scary river and then calling a river raise

You have a boar, 3 bet.
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Old 08-01-2005, 05:27 PM
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Default Re: 10/20, betting a scary river and then calling a river raise

Boar, I like that.

I guess this post was a form of self-punishment for being a gaping hatchet wound?
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Old 08-01-2005, 05:27 PM
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Default Re: 10/20, betting a scary river and then calling a river raise

This thread is an excellent lesson in boardreading. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Rob
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Old 08-01-2005, 05:34 PM
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Default Re: 10/20, betting a scary river and then calling a river raise

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dude you have a boat

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and it might be a 3bet vs the right player with 2 pair.

Surf
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Old 08-01-2005, 05:46 PM
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Default Re: 10/20, betting a scary river and then calling a river raise

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You have a boar, 3 bet.

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POTD

Krishan
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Old 08-01-2005, 07:54 PM
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Default Re: 10/20, betting a scary river and then calling a river raise

LOL. Well, yes I know I have a boat. The point of the post was to show what can happen if you fold to a river raise after the 4 flush shows up on the board. The guy who raised the river had nothing at all and was clearly trying to bluff me off the pot because of the flush possibility. He had been making plays for some time at the table, and I wanted to see what he had. He was either getting very lucky with his cards, or he was bluffing at lots of pots. This was my first reasonable opportunity to see a showdown against him. Hence, I called his 3 bet to be sure of a showdown. I think the information I gleaned here was worth not reraising the river. I've got a note on this player now. Everyone thinks that is a foolish choice?
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